Building a Ryzen... wanted to check your guys opinions

Discussion in 'AMD x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by BloodDonor, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. BloodDonor

    BloodDonor Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,594
    Location:
    Invercargill NZ

    Ryzen 7 1700
    Trident Z RGB F4-3200C16D-16GTZR, 16GB (2 x 8GB)
    ROG Strix X370-F


    • Wasn't after RBG ram but it was the only GSkill in stock at the shop i buy from here in NZ
    • Comes with the wrath fan, currently have the AM4 adaptor for my H110 cooler on order


    Any thoughts?
     
  2. AEKaBeer

    AEKaBeer Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    4,169
    Location:
    North Melbourne
    Well I don't have guys ("your guys" is a linguistic fk up the Americans created) but otherwise solid build. You could save a few bucks on a different motherboard even a B350 based one as you're not really losing anything when compared with X370. The benefit from 3200 ram isn't big enough over 2666 or 2933 to really justify, but if you're talking a difference of about $30 or so, it's not going to kill the bank.

    Regarding the cooler, at 3.6-3.7 all core OC the stock cooler does a great job while staying quiet but if you're going for 3.9-4.1ghz OC it will do do it but at the cost of noise. The h110 will be more than enough for a Ryzen build.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2017
    BloodDonor likes this.
  3. The OC

    The OC Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2004
    Messages:
    1,594
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Have to disagree on that point, Ryzen is very sensitive to RAM speed (and latencies) and CL14 DDR4 3200 is significantly faster than your run of the mill CL16 DDR4-2666, especially in gaming.
     
  4. AEKaBeer

    AEKaBeer Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2003
    Messages:
    4,169
    Location:
    North Melbourne
  5. museumman

    museumman Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2002
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    on a plane with cocaine & yes im all lit up again
    Latency has a large part to play also. C12 @ 2933 is faster than 3200 c14 in most testing I have done. Most Hynix based ram seems to be ok with tight timings at lower frequencies. 2666mhz and above ( to 3333mhz ) ?, its a fractional difference between faster speed higher latency and lower speed lower latency. And ram prices are hoohaa at best atm.
     
  6. Glide

    Glide Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,151
    Location:
    Was: Sydney Now: USA
    Right, when I was first researching Ryzen upon its release there was a lot of hoohaa about latency. Paid up for Team Dark w/Timing 14-14-14-31
    Maybe the guidance changed since then...
     
  7. TaroT

    TaroT Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2002
    Messages:
    8,708
    Location:
    Hazelbrook nsw 2779
    yeah..ram...friggen hell...the flare x I got for 295 from pc case gear about 4 months ago is now 399 and the same goes for all the ram it just went ballistic.
    but yeah latency helps but so does bandwidth to a point my setup runs best at 3333 14 14 14 etc but it is not that much faster than the stock 3200 14 14 14 or 3466 14 15 15 so yeah aim for 3200 14 at whatever good price yopu can get unless you use oodles of ram then 3200 is the point to aim for
     
    BloodDonor likes this.
  8. OP
    OP
    BloodDonor

    BloodDonor Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,594
    Location:
    Invercargill NZ
    Cant seem to get 3200 out of it atm, but that may have been stock cooling... I just got the AM4 adaptor kit for my Corsair H110... temps are 18c less under full load, about 22c less idle
     
  9. TaroT

    TaroT Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2002
    Messages:
    8,708
    Location:
    Hazelbrook nsw 2779
    you have the trident z c16 ones which are maybe e die although I,m not sure run taiphoon to see.
    the best I got from my corsair 3200 eddies was 2933 but at 14 14 14 so not a total loss.
    check over the overclock.net forums for your specific ram I,m sure there are quite few people that made them work :)
     
    BloodDonor likes this.
  10. OP
    OP
    BloodDonor

    BloodDonor Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,594
    Location:
    Invercargill NZ

    Thanks, will look at that... I got 3800Mhz out of the CPU, but it's about 20c above temps (idle/load) over the 3600Mhz, so I'm more comfortable running at 3600Mhz, though will see if I can get some performance out of the RAM :)

    Edit: got the ram working @ 2933Mhz now at least... its a bit of a boost
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2017
  11. TaroT

    TaroT Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2002
    Messages:
    8,708
    Location:
    Hazelbrook nsw 2779
    as useless as my team extreme was I did manage 12 14 14 at 2933 with 1.4v I think from memory, if you can snag those timings I think you should be pretty close to 3200 speeds.
    just be sure to test it well as it can get a little finicky.
    good luck :)
     
    BloodDonor likes this.
  12. OP
    OP
    BloodDonor

    BloodDonor Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2001
    Messages:
    1,594
    Location:
    Invercargill NZ
    RAM wont do 12 14 14.... oh well, least its @ 2933... maybe if RAM every drops in price ill buy a new kit :leet:
     
  13. AlliZ

    AlliZ Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2017
    Messages:
    507
    Location:
    Ask Google
    nice build, welcome to the club
     
    BloodDonor likes this.

Share This Page

Advertisement: