They definitely have finally come to the party. How quick people forget that the R system was a relatively lacklustre launch (when was that Oct 2018 release?) and very typical of what Canon have done for many years (in holding back features/abilities to consolidate product lines). They have built on that now, but there are plenty of people who had high hopes and were let down and jumped off the Canon train. That's Canon's loss and that is fine.. It's just like politics of being like 'Oh lets just conveniently forget about everything before this'. I have no regrets because I have spent a couple of years using a far superior system than what I had before. For someone who shoots at a high volume that is a very long time. I would have no problem with the R5 setting the new standard/bar for everyone to get to and surpass. That is the whole point of competition right? Something I have said all along. The thing is if Sony didnt come along and start reaching far beyond what was currently on offer (or bring mirrorless to the level it at now) we would probably be looking at a 5D Mark V with average specs. So I am happy with it working both ways The A7r4 has been out for what 6 months already? People forget just how quickly Sony has been churning out revisions and new versions (Think it was like 20 months between the r3 and r4). It's exciting. The A9II was not exciting, it was an updated release for sports shooters for the olympics and brought out prematurely for that. End of the day though, if this pushes Sony to push the limits in their next releases (A74, A7s3 (rumoured for April announcement))... its exciting times. Well you know without current events of the world going on. When it comes to spec comparisons though it's so different for what YOU want out of a camera and how that stacks up. Where does a camera comparison really lie? I am happy that Sony have different lines with different focuses, unless its an apples to apples though what is better? A top line body that tries to tick all the boxes but maybe lacks in one/few areas vs the rest or ones that cater for what people want to shoot. I kind of like having different lines for focus, but also have enjoyed one camera that can do it all. I shoot A73's because for me they are the perfect balance of what I want for weddings. They are crazy bang for buck... not high end by any means but the performance level at their price point is crazy. A9's are tempting but there are reasons why I didnt go that way. End of the day though what is the real world experience in using these cameras? On paper it means shit if its crap to hold or doesnt quite perform how it should. I am surely never thinking about other cameras whilst I am out shooting... just what isnt great on my current one. As far as eye AF implementation is going already I mean its amazing as it is now, I can only imagine it will get better but how much better can it get? I am not a brand fan boi by any means. I started off shooting Nikon, spent many years with Canon and am happy where I am with Sony. I have no problem moving systems back to Nikon/Canon or whomever steps up to the table with the best offerings available which make the most business sense for me. I just rather brands are held accountable for the good and bad decisions they make.