1. OCAU Merchandise is available! Check out our 20th Anniversary Mugs, Classic Logo Shirts and much more! Discussion in this thread.
    Dismiss Notice

Capos? Seriously? WTF!

Discussion in 'Musicians' started by Willybomb, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    Been hunting down songs for students every now and again, and I just want to know WTF is up with all these people posting chord charts on the interweb using a capo on the x fret on songs that basically work out to be E A and D?

    Can't they play a Bm, barred or otherwise?

    /rant.
     
  2. sandwichamwin

    sandwichamwin Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,622
    Location:
    Sydney
    Probably not. People are lazy and can't be bothered practising anything remotely difficult (to a new player) to actually master the skill.
     
  3. Thraxeh

    Thraxeh Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    4,357
    Location:
    Sydney Australia NSW
    Sure their reasoning might be due to laziness, but don't forget the voicing of the chords completely change.
     
  4. General_Cartman

    General_Cartman Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Messages:
    2,749
    Location:
    The Confedaracah!
    If they just want to be able to play the chords and sing along, why not? Sure it's lazy, but not everybody wants to become the next EVH. First and foremost, playing an instrument should be fun.
     
  5. SquarkyD

    SquarkyD Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2001
    Messages:
    3,509
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Yeah bugs the shit out of me, especially when the song is played in a standard tuning without capo by the artist :confused::confused::confused:
     
  6. OP
    OP
    Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    Sometimes I get a little surprised. I was doing Barenaked Ladies "One Week" in an acoustic duo, trying to get that happening. Watch the official clip, he's pretty clearly playing an A at the 5th fret, and then in a live bathroom version he's doing the whole G w/capo2 thing. Same thing, different method obviously.

    No.

    It is not.

    It is about becoming rich and famous and scoring hot chicks.
     
  7. sandwichamwin

    sandwichamwin Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,622
    Location:
    Sydney
    It's amazing how many of those never came together for me :lol:
     
  8. OP
    OP
    Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    Well, what do you expect playing the clarinet?
     
  9. Sphinx

    Sphinx Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2001
    Messages:
    10,446
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Chicks dig the Recorder.
    This one time at band camp..
     
  10. OP
    OP
    Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    Just as an appendium to my rant, every now and again you get artists actually using the capo... but it seems to be country artists in my fairly small sample. Taylor Swift capos pretty constantly, and then you get Lady Antebellum doing a video lesson for a 4 chord song capo'd at the 4th. Not a bad lesson actually (and his other ones are pretty cool too).



    There's nothing wrong with using a capo, but it does bug me when it seems to be for nothing (like, tuning down a full step and capoing at the 2nd and playing an A using the G shape).
     
  11. renren

    renren Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    852
    Location:
    A magical place
    I love my capos! It sounds very different, even when playing regular chords in the same place, especially on my 12 string and even more so when playing in DADGAD on the 6. There are sounds that you can make with a capo that you can't without. I reckon they have their place.

    (I don't use it on my high tension nylons though, that would be wrong.)
     
  12. billet

    billet Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2005
    Messages:
    275
    I am a fan of Capos. But fuck me sometimes people are lazy, i use the capo to make a different sound, nothing more.
     
  13. Niggle

    Niggle Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2001
    Messages:
    339
    Location:
    Cumnock, NSW, Australia
    No one I play with uses a capo. I was of the opinion that capos were used to change key when the guitarists lack of ability made changing key a "little" challenging for them
     
  14. SquarkyD

    SquarkyD Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2001
    Messages:
    3,509
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Hardly, I capo the shit outta my acoustic for different sounds and feels way more often than I do to change the key of something.
     
  15. Ratzz

    Ratzz Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2013
    Messages:
    10,494
    Location:
    Cheltenham East 3192
    Useful tools. I use them when I want a particular sound, and yes, sometimes to make it easier too.. I'm no Tommy Emmanuel, I'm just happy to make it easy enough to play, sing along, and enjoy.

    Not everyone wants to be a guitar hero.
     
  16. OP
    OP
    Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    An ability to play barre chords does not make a guitar hero... Having said that, they're not a basic technique, but is it really necessary to capo 2 and play D E A shapes instead of E B and F# ?
     
  17. itsmydamnation

    itsmydamnation Member

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2003
    Messages:
    10,700
    Location:
    Canberra
    also consider the instrument the person who tab'd the song might be using. I find baring on a 25.5 scale electric almost impossible but easy as on a 24.75.
     
  18. Mr Henry

    Mr Henry (Banned or Deleted)

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    Messages:
    540
    Location:
    In a bucket
    A lot of people can't play Bm or bar chords. Especially young girls.
     
  19. OP
    OP
    Willybomb

    Willybomb Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2001
    Messages:
    6,347
    Location:
    Ballarat
    Pigs bum.

    I can point you to a number of my female primary school age students who have been doing so for the last year (and the rest). You don't have to barre either. Using x3321x as an F is fine (although it's probably closer to Fmaj7/C), as is xx4432 for Bm. Those shapes are easily moved up/down as necessary and I teach those shapes before barres. In a pinch you could even substitute them with power chords, which I'm not a fan of teaching early on.

    I will agree though, barres are hard to execute cleanly - especially on a beginner nylon string guitar... but to say they "can't"... no, that's just blatantly wrong.

    I'm not saying capos shouldn't be used. I'm commenting on the number of internet tabs/charts/interpretations that seem to use capos for no real reason at all other than to stick with open chords.
     
  20. ska'

    ska' Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,806
    I've only ever used a capo when providing accompaniment to a female singer to enable them to sing in their preferred range..

    Other than that, nope.
     

Share This Page

Advertisement: