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Case Concept: 10L ITX with full custom watercooling (formerly portrait A(MD)4-SFX)

Discussion in 'Modding' started by OCMunkee, Jul 6, 2021.

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    Hmm maybe you're right (re heatpipes)

    Now I'm tempted to turn my case on its front to see if the same thing happens... *what can I use as case feet around here* :D


    Also I spotted this adapter OCMunkee

     
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    Adapter won’t work for me unfortunately as the fan would clash with the VRM heatsink on the board.

    Alternative plan, anyone got a good reason for me NOT to do this?
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    At the moment... aesthetics :p

    But would look pretty sweet if you could really hide the cables or get some nice ones with a good flow going

    and matching fans :lol:
     
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    Yeah but if it were a case layout? :D
     
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    hi What are you intending to use for the case layout, to get a little more space you could ditch one of the fans on the H60 push pull fans don't make much of a temp difference, left field suggestion
    //www.ple.com.au/Products/643234/ID-COOLING-IceFlow-240-AIO-VGA-Liquid-Cooler?gclid=CjwKCAjw9uKIBhA8EiwAYPUS3FuKfkYebUe6LzBjdp4NtdOsbJwP4fNRjj27VKEI2VPIk87Du6Au5xoCVCsQAvD_BwE, there are a few different type on the market,
    externally mount the gpu radiator, you will have to check compatibility but it will significantly reduce the Gpu footprint width and/length, increase performance,lower temps.
    Maybe scrap that, they make them for 3090 but cant find them for 6800xt without mods it depends on bolt spacing
     
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    If I had a bunch of spare money, I'd be building an Alphacool custom water loop with the CPU & GPU. I wonder if I could then reasonably reduce case size below the 7.8L I'm estimating for the case I'm sketching up now (with GPU on stock air)...
     
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    I like the idea of an aio on the vga, pity the reference cooler looks cant be beaten

    Also I'm wondering if the psu can get enough air draw in that mockup? Need a third angle show to see the clearance :p
     
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    I would of suggested a custom loop except for the cost, the gpu aio had everything but compatibility, and the corsair one you have is only good for 220w fine for 5600x but for a gpu you need at least 240 rad, temps are maybe going to be a challenge in that size case with the hardware your running, at least you haven't got a 200w cpu
     
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    So I cannibalised a buggered case as a mock-up frame for the vertical design…

    Current design considerations:

    Featuring GPU fans at front will mean it’s offset to the left.
    To centre GPU at the front would add approx 30mm to the width of the case (height from bottom of cooler to connector / slot / mb / standoffs / backpanel).

    Need to decide if I want ATX or SFX(-L). I’m fairly happy with the quality of modern SFX power supplies so that should be ok, but if retaining the SX600 The fan definitely needs replacing.

    Mock-up has radiator too high, case top will be ‘flush’ with top of GPU. Have to work out I can fit an exhaust fan (92/120mm?) on the rear or side of case. Or if I want one. Rotating the SFX power supply will give me extra space and mean all cabling will be at the one side, out the bottom of the case.

    I want to retain easy access to m.2 and CPU backplate. Need to work out what this will look like for MB tray / side panel. Could I even have a thick aluminium plate as the side panel for back-side/m.2 cooling, with removable pieces for access? Hmm.

    Thoughts, suggestions ?

    As it stands (if radiator lowered to match GPU end), the case dimensions (excluding case feet) will be approximately:
    285mm (H) x 140mm (W) x 220mm (D) = 8.8L

    Noticeably larger than I’d hoped but I think there’s a little fat to trim, eg reducing stand-off height etc.

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    My shitty powerpoint mockup looked like this
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    So it's not too far off as the physical PoC :)
     
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    I've also emailed Aquatuning, but OCAU might have some insights on this too:
     
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    So I guess I've got 2 main options, EK with res/pump or Alphacool with pumps on the blocks. Difference is about double (~$1200 for Alphacool parts)

    I think this is what I'll end up going with, plus additional for the extra fittings. I'd like to do solid tubes but think I'll go flexible hose first until I'm more confident.
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    Do you really need the 120mm rad as the thicker PE 240 is the same as standard 240 + 120 in capacity and you save money and space. you will need extra fittings for the gpu block and radiator, good price for the kit
     
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    Oh really? If the PE240 will handle it I’ll do that. Maybe add 120 later if temps are struggling
     
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    EK web site says enough cooling for OC cpu & gpu, Your gpu will benefit most but all the heat from it exhausts outside the case, the ryzen will run cooler but mine can see 63 in long stressful tests with 20deg ambient, but the vega 64 avg about 43 deg but in Long Heaven benchmark pulls 370 watts I've overridden the power limit with Soft power play table in the registry max 400watts,
    This is my Cpu temps just browsing with a 420 rad + 280 60mm thick still 50 deg with 14 ambient, a your 240 will be much better than any air cooler you can fit in your case, read tiny .
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    Yeah my GPU pulls about 335W with an MPT edit. So I'd be looking at about 130W CPU + 335W GPU ASIC (~370W or so actual TGP?) + board/extras/losses, so I guess 500W?

    To me, that sounds like a lot to put through a 240mm radiator, but it's been years (a decade, more even?) since I played with watercooling. Back then it was also nowhere near that power/heat so I just don't know!
     
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    If you put that extra 120 PE the cooling performance staticically will be around the performance of a 480 x 30 with one less fan and whatever the flow rate of the pump, the varder fans are very good if a bit noisy at high rpm, my system is very silent with the fan speed being about 800-1000 rpm, put the question to the guys in the extreme water cooling forum thy have a lot more experience than me
     
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