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[PROJECT] Chilled's old skool BMX restoration/build worklog (Mongoose, Redline, Hotfoot)

Discussion in 'Other Toys/Hobbies' started by MR CHILLED, Aug 29, 2021.

  1. kombiman

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    I'm impressed you're building your own wheels!
     
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    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Yep, least i can do for this particular bmx. I used to tinker with all my wheels back in the day, was fun. Wanted to give it a go again worth the old 20" rims.
     
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    Up early this morning lacing up the Blue Max wheels....I was dreaming last night, under under over....under, under over....under under over :lol:

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    FINAL 1983 Mongoose Blue Max

    And last but not least I formally present the completed 1983 Mongoose Blue Max restoration/build.

    Journey

    This one took the longest. The frame and forks came to me in almost NOS condition so no restoration was really needed aside from a little cleaning here and there and chrome polish to bring the paintwork up. This will be another carpet queen build that consists mostly of repop parts but with some non negotiables such as the head set. Blue Max frames, especially the gusseted one are incredibly difficult to find and expensive when you can find them in good condition; people are tending to sit on them these days because they are Holy Grail bikes.

    For this build I went with a 1983 non gusset version which is actually exactly what I had back int he 80's as a birthday present. Everything is as original as I can get it, with a mix of nos, og and repop.

    I started with awesome condition 1983 Blue Max frame, forks, which came with og Mongoose stamped head set also in excellent condition. I was able to find a NOS head stem SR MS-422. Unofrtunately I don't know the history of the frame/forks but being in such excellent condition it's possible it's NOS stock that was never actually built fully. It received no Acidic acid bath just as I say a quick clean and polish. No pitting at all on the frame, just some small scratches here and there but barely noticeable. Polished up with AutoSol chrome/metal polish.

    NOS/OG and Repop parts all took ages to get to me being sourced from the US, Thailand and Aust. Due to covid even repop parts were difficult get in reasonable time so I had to cancel some orders and order from others.

    First ride of a Blue Max in almost forty years, be still my beating heart...even the tick of the freewheels brought back memories.....ahhhhh :p :lol: Everything went together sweet with some small riding adjustments needed. Feels different again than the Redline and Hotfoot; they all have their own unique feel to them. It's a very light bike, lighter than the Redline it rides beautifully :thumbup:

    Parts list

    Serial: M3-F9585

    Frame: 1983 Mongoose Blue Max (og)
    Forks: 1983 Genuine Blue Max
    Brake Calipers/lines: Dia-Compe Quick Release Alloy MX1000 (repop) / Dia-Compe cables (repop)
    Brake Levers: MX121 (Tech-3) Bright Blue (repop)
    Brake Pads: Genuine Dia-Compe 980 threaded (repop)
    Crank/Chainwheel/BB: ProBMX Three Piece Forged Aluminium/Blue Cranks set 44T (repop), American BB
    Chain: Izumi 1/2" x 1/8" Chrome (repop)
    Head stem: SR MS-422 (nos)
    Head set: Genuine 1983 Mongoose stamped (og)
    Handle Bars: Chrome Pro Bars (repop)
    Grips: Mongoose (repop)
    Seat: Kashimax Aero (repop)
    Seat Post: Ch-Mo Seat Post Layback 22.2mm x 450mm (repop)
    Seat Clamp: Dia-Compe 1 Bolt MX 25.4mm Blue (repop)
    Seat Guts: Silver generic (repop)
    Pedals: MKS BM-7 9/16" Blue (repop)
    Rims: Araya Type 7x 20", Suzue type hubs (repop)
    Tyres: Kenda Comp 3 Skinwall non competition setup 20 x 1.75 on the front and 20 x 1.75 on the rear
    Pads: 1983 Mongoose Blue Max Blue/White (repop)
    Decals: 1983 Mongoose Blue Max (repop)
    Colour: Chrome/Blue

    Final pictures

    This is where we started...

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    This is where we ended up...

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    Thought I'd share some of the BMX funnys I collected along the way that gave me a bit of a laugh :)

    Some of these you might only get if you're in the scene :cool:

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    That concludes the journey, thanks everyone who tuned in in support :)

    If anyone decides to do a BMX project of their own I'm happy to help with any details you might need, I've learnt heaps and heaps in the last four months.....happy to pass that knowledge on here or in PM.
     
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    Now wall mounted the two main BMX :)

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    Now that's some wall art I can get on board with. :thumbup:

    Somehow missed seeing the final pics of the Mongoose during xmas silliness (I mean, I might have seen them at some point... hard to say...).
    Really nice end result mate. The same applies to all three of them, great job. You'll be the envy of all the lads at the skate park... :D
    Seriously though, the blue/red combo looks sick up on the wall.
     
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    Mate, please tell me you rode them at least once before mounting! Really, nice work. :cool:



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    :thumbup: It's pretty much the only room I have in the house to put them :lol: Very happy with how they mounted, they look great up there. If anyone wants to know the mounts, these are the ones I used, very cheap but super solid metal :)

    Would absolutely love to do more bikes, but simply no room, and I just don't want to chuck them in the garage, not really a fitting place for restored 80's BMX.

    Thanks. Yes most definitely have been, not extensively but around a block a few times :thumbup:
     
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    I just read through this whole log today mate, hat off to you, examplatory work. Really nicely done. loved the mongooses back in the day, but my olds weren’t that rich, so had to do with the Malvern Star version. I do remember drooling over these at the bike shops… also, absolutely just blew me away what these bikes go for now. We put my brothers and mine malvern starts on the council cleanup a few years back at my old ladies house in Sydney, no wonder they were gone with an hour or 2. Lol.

    Again, very nicely done mate, thanks for letting us ride shotgun through your childhood. :thumbup:
     
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    Cheers mate, appreciate the kind words. Although I'm pretty quiet around the retro forum I've seen your awesome work around that subforum and know you can appreciate all things retro :)

    These bikes were definitely expensive even back in the day. I rode a junk bike (which I love to have now!) back in the 80's and it was my dream come true when my folks bought me the Blue Max for my birthday. They know it's the one thing in the world I desperately wanted. It wasn't cheap for them, they weren't rich so it was a significant outlay for them. I've never had that feeling again like I had that day, on top of the world comes close to it. And this is why after it was stolen I said one day I will have my bike back again, only took almost 40 years :p So it's been hugely satisfying. I look at the Blue Max and Redline on the wall every day now.

    Yeah price of these 80's bikes is through the roof, it's unbelievable, but then again it probably isn't as as you would know yourself what is old becomes highly desirable eventually. For bmx it seems to be a select number of years, I would say from 1976-1990 maybe is where the huge demand is....after the 80's era demand tapers off. But having said that 90's bmx is on the way up in price. Given the prices if I didn't have such a long lasting desire to have my childhood bike back I wouldn't have embarked on this, prices are really just stupid high, and probably will go even higher.

    Anyways, onward and upwards I say in reviving what is old to what becomes new again :) Retro forever! RAD
     
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    Fantastic thread mate, just read the whole thing!

    Silly question, how hard is it to actually assemble one of these things from scratch?
     
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    Thanks for reading :)

    Not a silly question at all. These are as as easy or as hard to build as you want to make them. The questions you need to ask yourself before getting into a build:

    (1) Do I want to go all original parts? Or a mix of some original and some repop? Some original parts can be very very hard to find. Invariably they do come up every now and again but some can take maybe years for you to get. And they are very expensive, be prepared for the cost if you take the "all originals route"
    (2) How much money do I want to spend? Set some sort of budget if you need to, otherwise spending can get crazy especially if going for original parts.
    (3) How long am I prepared to spend building it? All original parts will probably take years to acquire. A lot of original parts will probably come from the US so be prepared to wait for all the shipping times on each part etc.

    You can do them in a relatively quick time if you are prepared to settle for repop parts. There is an awesome supply of new parts for these old BMX's in Aus, some places are better at fulfilling orders than others however, as one place in particular likes to say they have stock but actually don't. Other places actually have the stock on hand. The repop parts are very good and close to the original from what I can tell.

    Also another thing, due to forgetting a lot of the 80's BMX stuff over the years I spent considerable time getting back up to speed with the parts and sizes etc. Get on the FB groups and BMX Museum to learn lots about the bike you want to restore - trust me there's quite a bit to it if you want to do it properly.

    So yeah, really depends on how you want to go about it :)
     
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    Good info, cheers mate! I’ve had an urge recently to fiddle around with a BMX bike and from a few quick googles seems like my era would be classified as “mid school” - would mainly be wanting to do a bit of custom painting myself and don’t need it to be 100% original or super true to the era
     
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    Mid school I would say would be 1990 to 2000. It's a bit controversial but I like to say it's that range : )

    Mid school bikes are going up in value as they age so it's probably a reasonable area to get into right now. Although early 90's mid school bikes can be exxy too.
     
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    Yeah these are the re-issue ones right? I actually bought one but was talked out of it due to quality concerns, lack of availability (due to covid) and not knowing when or if stock would even come through. So I wasn't prepared to park reasonable money with a retailer not even know when or if the order would be fulfilled.

    Not a bad wall hanger though :D
     
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    So this happened today, I love it.....they only recently became available so I snapped one up :cool:

    Will post a up a pic when installed :)

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    Didn't take long to change over....much better! More like the original now.

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