Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by AbRASiON, Apr 26, 2017.
What voltage have you set in bios and LLC?
I set 1.175 volts in the bios and LLC is Level 6
It seems to run very cool.
Hey Persuit, is the chip delidded?
What do you think the DMM voltage is, 1.2v or so?
No it is not delidded.
Know the Apex, yeah. Would be about that. I can test myself another night this week with one of my chips.
Don't have the board setup at the moment cause I'm trying to get 699 XTU on a 6100
Can you set bios to default, reboot and tell me what the vcore measurement in bios is after please?
The vcore in the bios is 1.12 volts.
If I disable Multi Core Enhancement, the vcore in the bios is then 1.10 volts.
Can any one delid in the Brisbane area? Have a 8600k rocking up today
Headins your man
Im up on the Sunshine Coast if you want to come for a drive. Not sure of anyone in Brizzy
Same as one of mine.....hmmmmmm curious.....
I found with MCE disabled and set to manual mode, they would drop to under 1.1v, some 1.074 which I don't think is true. Still need to find more time to work out how this board is volting for proper measurements.
Also strange is you HWinfo64 VID measure shows 1.25v. I don't use that program, but also don't trust any software anymore, got bitten on one apparent golden CPU where the software was bullshitting. I'll be checking that too when I set it back up.
What software are you using to find VID? This Coffeelake sits on 0.696V with all that speedstep shit running for cpu-z in windows.
Never cared too much on the idle volts. Just looks very similar to 7700K that way.
One of yours, how many do you have ?
I just disabled MCE, but left cpu voltage on auto and the vcore then becomes 1.10 volts.
What is strange about Hwinfo showing 1.25 volts for the VID ? It does that by itself as you can't change the VID reading. However I have noticed that the VID is always different depending on what multiplier I set the cpu to in the bios. I just go off what it shows in the vcore reading in Hwinfo, as that is what matches what I have set in the bios, when I use manual voltage.
A CPU need X volts to run regardless of what vid says. Is vid mapped individually at time of manufacture? If so does that mean every CPU is already stability tested and has a map implanted that is specific to that CPU? It can't be an expected value table or why would CPUs vary? There must be some factory testing going on right? Is the vid table where the motherboard picks up it's auto vcore from?
Basically yes yes yes and yes.
Pursuit, may or may not have a few lol
Aussie, correct, the VID of a CPU is set in the factory when they are binning. The motherboards pick up this setting and apply as the stock voltage. I am sure that Intel has a calculated binning scheme to set this without full testing.
For VID measurement by the end user, the only way to get it is a fresh default bios setting, and it is the voltage that the CPU shows in the Bios monitoring. Problem comes that every board will report this differently, unless it defaults to a truely "stock factory state". Asus, bless them have messed it up for us with their MCE and auto overclocking the 8700k's to 4700. Turning MCE off makes a difference, but I still don't feel it's quite correct. Otherwise I've had a lot of CPU's with a 1.074v VID (which I doubt).
I'm still working with my contact there to get a more true reading. Having another manufacturer board handy to compare to would be great, but alas, I have too many CPU's and not enough Z370 boards lol. An example of the difference from my experience is my 7700k, which on my MOCF shows 1.12v VID, yet on my Apex show 1.138v due to the MCE. All comes down to what the board sets as it's base settings.
How many Coffeelake's there Headin ... not probing or anything
Enough, will be selling another maybe in the next week.
Does the VID even matter if we over ride it anyway?
Only matters to help binning for going Cold. Generally lower VID, better cold.
Still have to test scaling though.