Coffee Lake 6 core, this August with z370 chipsets?

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  1. adamsleath

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    aorus ..nice looking board.
     
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    Nice looking board :confused: I could not give a flying rats ass about pretty lights & leds. 98% of z370 are gaming orientated.
    Sure they'll do a 5GHZ OC & Illuminate your keyboard @ night :rolleyes:

    I'm not doing your homework for you. Look all previous generations of motherboards.
    Ivybridge had a 8pin + 4pin for power delivery to the cpu
    Haswell had a 8pin + 4pin for power delivery to the cpu
    Skylake had a 8pin + 4pin for power delivery to the cpu
    Kabylake had a 8pin + 4pin for power delivery to the cpu

    So that was solid enough to clock i7 4 core hard.

    What's changed with Coffeelake you ask? x1 8pin for power delivery to the cpu.

    Now you want to drive x2 more cores 8600K 8700K ... should be easy right? Input more volts via bios pushing beyond 5Ghz
    There are x2 boards worthy of consideration $450-529. Provided x2 8pin for power delivery.

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    The logic here folks is z370 is a temporary measure by Intel put onto the motherboard manufacturers " lite version "
    9700K 8cores then you'll want a z390 board to run it.
     
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    Nice temps on that R15 run. :wired: Very strange cpu-z says 1.28V. What else have you set in the bios or are you 0.045v V-droop challenged?
     
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    LLC 2 in bios so I'll trying bump it up to 1.

    More difficult to fine tune voltages than Asus ROG boards I've owned in the past, especially with the memory.

    Here's everything on max for cb15 at 1.46v set in bios.


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    You have to buy what is best for you Adam. I'm not slamming the Gigabyte board on it's own.
    All the z370 boards :tongue: look to be junk, except for x2 boards.

    If the Msi mAtx $269 budget board is my reference point for now. Then a 5.4Ghz OC is a no go
    1x 8pin power = 150watts VS 2x 8pin power = 300watts. There is no way of achieving high OC easily then ... 98% of the z370 boards are gimped.
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    No point in X series either. Another strangled platform by Intel ... hmm what was it?
    Less pci-e lanes than previous generations I think eg. 2011 pro sckets. Information is out there
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

    Then in benchmarks 8700K can keep pace with the x10 core 7900X @ 5Ghz
     
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    ive just been looking at it. its (GB z370 g7) about 280$ (aM4) and 330aud for z370@newegg &gaming5 265aud... the x299 is what they've done for 8+ core chippies..so i expect that is the level youd need to get for the next step up.....to z390.

    x2 boards? whats that?

    do any z370 have 2 x 8pin cpu power?

    not in multicore performance
     
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    https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/motherboards/Intel-Socket-1151

    Look the pictures z370 Asus boards in here. I hope we can support our pc shops here in AU too. Members discount + OCAU sponsor
    Check for those x2 8pin

    edit. Bugger ... cross the hero off that list
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    So 1x choice really for me then.

    It's the difference between an easy stable OC vs struggling on a cheapy board
    Multi's kind of like this. You just battle massive v-droop if the board lacks grunt.

    50x 1.3V ... 1.32V bios
    51x 1.4V ... 1.45V bios
    52x 1.5V ... 1.6V bios
     
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    The G7 is good too like Adam said, strong VRM.
     
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    Nope not the choice for me :Pirate: If the MSI Godlike was more reasonable priced ... I would hit that.
    You clocking now the weekend is here? Some rain now ... will cool things down

    Get your 8700K 5550mhz going after #1 XTU boy
     
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    Nah, too hot and Humid here today lol.
     
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    My latest and best CPU

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    Looks very strong. Is it 3075 XTU strong? Do you clock in the app in windows?
     
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    Managed to get a little further with the clock now
    Got into windows at 5.5ghz but pretty unstable.


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    ...you want the apex. but if it doesnt support intel's 8-core 9xxx...then why bother.

    if from scorptec. gaming 5 aorus. that's what i would do. if wanting to upgrade board to z390 what does it matter.

    gaming 7 aorus has more oc options than g5...i think.
     
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    Very nice. Tell you what, that ITX board is pretty solid, your the second person I've seen getting some sold clocks from one. Well done.
     
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    hmmm Apex looks kinda expensive , think ill stick with 5ghz and delid to bring the temps down :) would like to have a play around but its getting expensive very quick
     
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    It's not for everyone. There's plenty of nice boards in the $300+ range. But they are strangled with x1 8pin for absolute performance.
    I'd have a guess & say that Intel releases the 8core 9700K early March 2018. As they love keeping AMD pinned for making money.

    Apex there is only x1 z370 board like it, we may have to wait till z390 boards to be released. Who can say on the cpu input power configurations.
    x1 8pin + x1 4pin ... all x2 8in. Trying to run a 8core with x1 8pin would be ridiculous so I'll rule that out.
    Will this board be updated via bios for an 8core? No update for it & being force to jump on z390 is possible. Could be the shortest z370 lifespan in history. :sick:

    LoL think SlotA from 1999 had a production run of 6 months
    Buy your z370 now & x1 8pin power ... think to bios update for a 8core processor. Then your driving double the core count of a 7700K
    If it goes this way. It is a BIG win for the motherboard manufacturers as your 8core 9700K will starve for energy & OC will suck.

    Bingo :Pirate: Your buying a z390 board. It's planned this way IMO, force upgrade sooner
    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z390-motherboard-spotted-in-sosoft-database.html
     
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  20. warcraft

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    makes sense to me , I should have just spent the money on the apex and been done with it , still really happy with my strix gaming H set up for gaming but the bug is bitting lol
     

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