"Collection of Mana" (Seiken Densetsu / Secret of Mana) - Nintendo Switch

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    Seiken Densetsu collection has been announced for Nintendo Switch. English speaking gamers will know the first in the series as "Final Fantasy Adventure" or "Mystic Quest" on GameBoy, and the second "Secret of Mana" on SNES.

    So far no word has landed if this collection will be available in English. Fans of the Mana series will painfully note that "Seiken Densetsu 3" (unofficially nicknamed "Secret of Mana 2") has never seen an official English translation to date, relying only on fan translations and ROM hacks.



     
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    To be fair it is a pretty awesome "hack" though. You'd never know.
     
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    Agreed, but there's a real message made when a Japanese company doesn't bother translating something. Even if the community can do it for themselves, when the parent company does it and offers it up for sale all these years later, it's a sign of recognition that they see we want their stuff.

    It's like when "Earthbound Zero" / "Earthbound Beginnings" finally got an official translation and release on VC. That was a great day for fans of the series, and retro gamers everywhere.

    Hopefully something as intensely popular as a Mana game can get the same treatment, and sales to match.
     
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    Yeah or Nintendo is scraping the barrel for Switch exclusives to release in an attempt not to tank like their last console.
     
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    Well, this seemed to have been released June 1, to absolutely zero fanfare in the west.

    http://www.play-asia.com/seiken-densetsu-collection/13/70b1qz

    By all accounts the Switch is region-free, although a Japanese-only language version means a language barrier.

    Unrelated to that, a new remake of Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) has been announced for PS4, PSVita and "Steam" (PC/Windows presumably).

    Thread over in the Sony Consoles section:
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1228779

    Trailer:

     
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    Hold on to your hats kids...

    1) This just got a confirmed English, titled "Collection of Mana"

    2) The first ever official release of "Seiken Densetsu 3", aka "Trials of Mana", the sequel to "Secret of Mana", is included in this pack, with official English translation (brand new work, not using existing community translations).

    I was convinced we'd never see this here in the west. Incredible!

     
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    Looks like a 3D remake of the third game is also in the works. This one's due next year, and will be multi-platform (Switch, PS4, Steam/PC confirmed).

    I'm less enthusiastic about this than the 2D collection, but happy to see the Mana franchise getting fresh air none the less.

     
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    Hmm, looks like my Seiken Densetsu 3 repro cart with the English ROM is officially obsolete. Need to buy a Switch now!
     
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    Yeah I'm keen to play on MiSTer too, but I'll wait until I buy the game officially first. I really feel like I need to vote with my wallet on this one, given how long the world has waited for this.
     
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    Thanks for the reminder! I swung past after work and grabbed a copy. :thumbup:

    Was actually in the process of repairing and backlighting a DMG-01 to play the original on the run. Looks like I'm taking the Switch to work instead. :)
     
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    Starting at the start because I've only ever played the first 30 minutes of "Secret" (2nd game in the series), and I should play them all.

    GB emulation looks really bloody good! (Sorry about the glare, out in the real world with my Switch going portable)

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    that looks amazing, mine is at home (got delivery) but that is seriously cool.
     
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    Bloody hell, I've run out of keys on what I'm pretty sure is the final dungeon of the first game. Stuck between two doors, and there are no skeletons or blobs to drop chests with keys.

    A quick Google says that this scenario is entirely possible, and forces you to restart the whole game (and/or lose several hours).

    Ugh.

    [edit]

    Wasn't too bad. Despite the last save being around 3 hours early, I remembered all the puzzles and ripped through it in about a hour. Back on track again, this time with a tonne of keys n my inventory.
     
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    So Death Stranding took over my life for a bit there. Back on this.

    Knocked over Final Fantasy Adventure / Mystic Quest / Seiken Densetsu. Not hugely difficult. I got really lost in a middle section and wandered around aimlessly for ages, which might have levelled me up a bit. But all the same there were a handful of deaths in there so I wasn't blitzing through it.

    Story wise it was super basic. Not surprising for a GameBoy era title.

    Now on to Secret of Mana / Seiken Densetsu 2. Holy crap this game is hard. I'm dying all the bloody time - sometimes even getting ganged up on by very minor enemies who can cycle patterns and just rip through my team. It's definitely not a game you can flippantly run around in without a care.

    The first few times I tried it in years gone by, I always managed to screw up the story somehow and end up facing the two werewolves early who'd wipe me out and I'd rage quit. This time I went in determined to actually get off the starting grid, and somehow I skipped that whole section (which I'd heard you could, but never figured out how). So I've got my team of three, and I'm on my merry way, just dying all the time. Saves are frequent enough that it's not really annoying, nor do I need to use save states. But if it gets too grindy, you're damn right I'll save scum my way through it.
     
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    I was a big fan of Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu 3 in my younger years, but when I last tried to play it a few years ago I just found them way too grindy.

    At least it wasn't so bad on an emulator because you could fast forward through the seemingly endless spell casting animations, but when I played them on a real SNES you don't have that luxury.
     

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