Hi, this is kind of suitable for both the career section but I'm only asking in relation to graphic design work, so admins move if necessary. I thought here would get the more relevant audience, that's all. I need some graphic design work done but not sure how it works for this type of work. For context, it's a small business' logo in a few different sizes, total 2-3 ways to suit different documents. - I don't really know what I want it to look like (other than colour palette to match company colours) but is it fair for me to engage someone without having a better idea what I want? A small business logo should be 'easy', but I have almost no creativity in my bones - is it fair to ask for the original works (vector graphics/layered image/.psd/whatever) so I can make future alterations myself? I had a powerpoint presentation done on freelancer and the images were all flattened so I couldn't really make any alterations myself later, which was the freelancer's tactic to make sure I come back to him for anything no matter how big or small. Seemed a little sneaky but not sure if it's just how the industry works? - what if they produce 3-4 examples and I don't like any? How does payment typically work here? I can't expect them to invest time and effort and risk walking away with nothing, doesn't seem fair, even if I don't want the resulting work. I'm sure some customers pretend they don't like any and avoid payment to try get the image for free - is this normally a pre-negotiated price for the resulting work? I.e. they'd know I want 2-3 images, so $xx per image? Or is it negotiated differently? Trying to get a better understanding so it's a smoother process for all involved. Thanks!