Consolidated Business & Enterprise Computing Rant Thread

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  1. PabloEscobar

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    Please tell me your day is filled with erection related puns and inuendo.

    Even if you do work for big pharma and are the devil himself.
     
  2. Doc-of-FC

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    Happy early Friday plebs.

    49.7 megapixel OCAU:
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  3. PabloEscobar

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    Noice. Just for Play Play? Or a big NOC screen with lots of blinkenlights so people can look in a fishbowl and think all the money they paid is worth something?
     
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    Christmas in July, multi yule log fireplace room warmer.
     
  5. IACSecurity

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    I for one like this:

    https://amc.health.qld.gov.au/amc 403 (or root is IIS default page) I seee you there... cert is a month old.. new site I assume

    The scary thing though, is there is a VIP/WIP allocated so you assume its via a GLB.. which means all the SSL config should be templated.... which reallllly makes you wonder. Given its AMC I am guessing its the medical council and not actually part of QLD Health.
     
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    Given prior expertise demonstrated in IT for QLD health I am entirely unsurprised
     
  7. Dre_

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    There is more to OCAU than the CBE Forum?
     
  8. wazza

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    Seems a lot of people ignore the pay (even if specified in the ad, not just the seek salary range) and apply anyway. Every IT job I've advertised ends up getting probably 2/3rds of the applicants removed for being significantly under or over qualified for the position - I've had plenty of people with none of the specific experience listed as absolutely mandatory apply, likewise had people with 20 years experience apply for L2 support roles.

    I see no issues with those questions (except the pop3 port...) and all should be able to either be answered by a decent sys admin, or at the very least they should be able to tell you how they would find/confirm the information if they weren't 100% sure on it.

    I get the same, and use this to filter them out. If I was advertising an 80k Sys admin position and had someone apply requesting 50k then that's likely quite telling on their real world experience level, even if their resume is trying to sell them as having the required experience. Likewise (and this has happened recently) when I get someone applying with 20 years experience telling me they would "be expecting somewhere around the 50k mark" it makes me think their 20 years experience must be from sitting around with their thumb up their ass to still be on that sort of rate.
     
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    For the advertised role I've had people asking from $40k to $140k on the seek screening. People ignore the seek ranges for sure and just scatter gun apply.

    We're offering $80+ super + salary packaging (Health Sector)

    The ports question is to gauge general knowledge, google fu is great but it's good to have some general knowledge. Pop might be obscure but that's probably because I'm from the generation that started out dealing with that shit :).
     
  10. PabloEscobar

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    Location?

    $80K works for me, because I'm regional, which means that I don't have to spend a brazillion dollars on City rents, or sit in traffic or public transport for an hour a day.

    If it was a City Job, I'd want another $20K on top.


    Are you grey-bearding/get-of-your-lawning your potential new hires. We had a trainee clearing up some stuff, he asked me what a Dial Up Modem was, and what it was used for...

    He's not stupid for not knowing, its not something he has had, or really would be expected to have experience with, or knowledge of... the Port pop3 port is the same.
     
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    elvis Old school old fool

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    See post #1 in this thread. :)
     
  12. j3ll0

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    Not the devil incarnate anymore (unless you're a millenial - now I'm with a land development company).

    If there's a Viagra joke, I've heard it and probably repeated it.

    The acronym du jour was ED, for Erectile Dysfunction, because boners are srs bzns, and you can't call it limp dick in the office. Around that time the Eastern Distributor tunnel opened up in Sydney. The road leading up to the tunnel was painted ED for some hundreds of meters beforehand.

    The Freudian associations of driving my car into a tunnel labelled ED is still one of the strongest memories of my time in Sydney.

    On topic, that was the last time I worked with token ring too.

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  13. looktall

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    Not enough job ads on seek contain salary figures and many that do are either unrealistically low or of such a wide range as to be useless.

    Why can't companies just advertise a job with a figure they wish to pay for the role?
    Asking for salary expectations is a pain too.
    Well, I can tell you what I'm currently earning and/or what I think I'm worth, but if you just told me how much you think the role is worth it might save both of us a lot of time.
     
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    have any of you used ftp in the last 10 years? god its friday already!
     
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    caution - generalisation ahead

    The "all knowing' system admins are a dying breed... Everyone is trained to be a specialist and to know their place. In the large companies there are large teams that manage specific things, the support guys that get promoted to new positions are no longer shuffled around the teams, they aren't encouraged to self learn, they aren't trained in other fields...

    I happen to steal a systems admin away just recently. 25 and was building everything from scratch. Building solutions and writing cross platform APIs like a demon. But he was getting paid peanuts because of his age.

    I lured him away to the dark side, the consulting engineering side, double his salary and sent him to get training (didnt need it) but we needed him to certify to get stuff on his very empty CV. 12 months on and his now how head engineer...

    Boss asked me to find another one, lol its been 6 months, no suitable candidate except for his brother but his only 19 and still studying...
     
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    Yes; yesterday to download some obscure drivers.
     
  17. PabloEscobar

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    Just because its friday.




    Any time I've interviewed for companies that put up stupid $40-$140 ranges... I always say, with great confidence, "Because of my skills and experience, I'd be expecting to start at the higher end of that range" But it massivley shits me off.

    here's the job, here's what we are offering... Pay Peanuts, get Monkeys is always going to be true.


    Daily, our LOB app uses it to put and fetch files from "secure" locations.
     
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    why could a person who has 20 years experience not want to work in a support role? Don't discount them just because they might be overexperienced. Maybe they want to downshift from being a neckbeard sysadm..
     
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    Sure, but DNS. Show me a business today that doesn't rely on this working.
     
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    Being faced with this at the moment. My company has been swallowed by a much larger one. Our IT team is 30 people top to bottom including all departments, on the nuts and bolts side of things there's just 12 of us. In contrast the company that acquired us has 600 IT staff, almost all specialists. We've been working on integrating our networks, they'll send up a team of 10 people to meet with our 'team', they walk into an office with 1 guy sitting there. They try and schedule two such meetings at once, send two teams, only to have one of those teams wait because both meetings need to happen with the same 1 guy on our side.

    The funny part of this was being called into meeting recently with a guest speaker giving a talk on 'lean business'. On one hand we have them trying to make us operate more like they do, on the other, we're already so lean we can barely get our jobs done and they're dragging us into meetings on how to be 'lean'.
     

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