Consolidated Business & Enterprise Computing Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by elvis, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. Gunna

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    It's not unpaid though, they get benefits and there is likely going to be a review of new start to bring it up closer to something they can live on. At least put something back into the community if you have been on benefits for 12 months
     
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    Long term new start should be made to do x hrs of charity work every fortnite.
     
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    Don't let them near the lawn mower, or the kitchen utensils. You'll have a near miss report on your desk within 10 minutes.
     
  4. looktall

    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    I know of several work for the dole activities that are teaching people how to do use Adobe creative cloud to do graphic design type stuff.
    I know others that are teaching horticulture and another that teaches people how to use a sewing machines. :D
     
  5. PabloEscobar

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    Advanced Serfdom :), I'm not advocating ownership of other Humans, But if the community are supporting you, you should have to give back to that community. Innstead of having one lot of WFD's dig a hole, and the next lot fill it in...
    Tax payers could add jobs to a list, those organizing Work for the Dole, could take jobs from this list.
     
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    The economies don't stack up for dole-work. A single dole worker doing a menial low-value task doesn't generate enough value to pay for the political + admin + bureaucrat + supervisory (etc) costs involved. Those overheads inevitably get shuffled away to more productive matters.
     
  7. PabloEscobar

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    not to mention, taking work away from other companies who might otherwise do it, Ala Private Prisons in the US :), but a Man can dream.

    #CapitalismYay
     
  8. tensop

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    I'll try, cars that look good but are unreliable shitbuckets are a bit like 400kw stock bottom end BA xr6t's.. they'll be great to sit in but in the long term it's going to bite you back
     
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    I've got bad news for anyone wanting to make money out of that...
     
  10. tensop

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    chronic pain sufferer here that's exacerbated by no motion(aka sleeping, sitting watching tv etc), ill take a 75% paycut to get 25% of your good sleeping
     
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    Ah that sucks. Even as an insomniac I at least don't feel pain while staring at the ceiling for half the night (even if I want to puke from my meds).

    Was chatting with a few other fine fellows tonight in a private chat, and it seems chronic illness affects way more OCAUers than I realised. Solidarity, my friends.
     
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  12. looktall

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    Which end of your career did you start at?
    The end your at now with the servers and storage and scripting etc.

    Or with a desktop OS?

    Don't focus on the tool they're being taught.
    Look at the skills they're learning.
     
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    yep, it sucks balls - the medication makes my work output probably 10% of what it was, but I couldn't survive on disability.. i'd be living on $116 a month after rent... going to need to look in to super payout in the next 5 years i suspect
     
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    False dichotomy. "Both" is my answer.

    I am. I work for a company that can hire these skills for a song because they're so overabundant in the market. I also see an emerging AI market that is constantly removing the need for specialised skills, turning what was once complex manual trickery into a one-click plugin.
     
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    YAY, so if hollywood movies aren't all the same formula already, now all the graphics coming out can all look and feel the same.... fuck the world may as well be taken over by robots, seeing as soon enough we'll all be watching the same shit, with a slightly different movies title.... woot something to look forward too.
     
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    While there is an "overabundance" of "skilled" workers in the market, there is still an overabundance of work for people who deliver and ACTUALLY know the skill and are able to comprehend systems as a whole not as a singular instance / problem. Lots of money to be made helping the "skilled" workers actually deliver on the technology they are "skilled" in, otherwise services like MSPs wouldn't exist, and in Briz Vegas area there are a lot of cool startups and companies pushing IoT that have NFI how to manage them once in the wild.
     
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    or to secure them, which will eventually bite them in the ass when a data breach eventually occurs or someone chooses to take over the function of the their device.
     
  19. GumbyNoTalent

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    data breach isn't really that big a concern for commercial IoT sensors, "oh noes" someone else knows my soil moisture percentage, or PH of my soil, most data is inocuious and wouldn't meet the criteria for a data breach unless it could be associated with an individual. Cameras are a different kettle of fish, but if the camera is in a public area then any image would be covered by laws that already exist for photography in a public space, most IoT devies aren't linked to bank details. ;)
     
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    Maybe not, but it provides a foothold and network mapping tool (For those that don't VLAN their shit) to provide for further exploits. So whilst in your scenario, they might only get a PH level or soil, and then the next minute their in the PLC and and have fried your crop, or overwatered/fertilised and thats it, your 100K in the hole.

    And lets face it, be it cheap or expensive IOT, they rarely if ever are secure, and even less are they updated by the end users....
     

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