Consolidated Business & Enterprise Computing Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by elvis, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. caspian

    caspian Member

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    regardless of what previous techs may have done, this appears to be entirely in accordance with the installation procedures. no different to a FTTB install in an apartment block, the tech runs the jumper to the nominated building pair and that's it.

    good that the slacktivations team could fix it on the fly, like anything I have no doubt that some practice was required to get good at it.
     
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  3. PabloEscobar

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    So Techs aren't supposed to run cable on the customers side of the MDF
    And the tech can't book the job off, until the NCD is synced
    And the NCD lives on the customers side of the MDF

    And nobody sees a problem with this installation procedure?
     
  4. looktall

    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    Presumably the customer knows they're getting a service put in.
    Presumably they've been given a date for installation in the not too distant future.
    What even are cable installers anyway?
     
  5. cvidler

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    Why is the nbn responsible for the customer having their building wired or not ?

    Especially when the law states where they are responsible to.


    Imagine the work they'd have to do if they had to wire to the customers NCD/modem etc. they'd be re-wiring houses and buildings on nearly every job. it'd never get done.
     
  6. PabloEscobar

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    What time should I ask my cable installer to be there?
    Or do I just pay him for 5 hours, to cover the NBN installer window?

    ThatsTheJoke.jpg

    Requirements to signoff the job, are outside of their scope.
     
  7. looktall

    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    whatever time you want.
    As long as he does his run from your specified location to your side of the MDF prior to the nbn dude coming.
     
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    You mean 20 hours to cover the three five hour windows during which the NBN installer will fail to turn up, and the one in which he/she does but screws up the install? I can't imagine why that option isn't insanely popular.
     
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  9. PabloEscobar

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    And if the service doesn't work when the NBN installer arrive, when he blames that run... we can play some cabler ping pong (not the good, Thailand type)
     
  10. looktall

    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    or the service works just fine and everyone is happy.
    Except for you because you're unhappy in your job and have become bitter and jaded and can only see the worst in everything you look at.

    probably.

    :)
     
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  11. tensop

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    that's everyone in this thread :p
     
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  12. caspian

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    no, as I said previously - the Telecommunications Act specifies the carrier demarcation point is the building side of the MDF. so once the tech has run the jumper from the street to the building site, he's done

    the tech syncs up the NCD temporarily at the network boundary point to prove the carrier's network functional, and that is the end of the procedure. in this case he left a bit of temp wire there, that's all.
     
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  13. PabloEscobar

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    I'm not unhappy in my Job, but I am bitter and jaded.
    I'm not seeing the worst, I'm just seeing, and what I'm seeing, is bad.


    Cheers for clarifying.

    I thought the tech had rigged up the dodgy cable and left it all plugged in as a 'job done'
     
  14. looktall

    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    so stop looking for bad things.
     
  15. caspian

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    the law in fact says exactly the opposite, and has done for decades now.

    Communications Alliance AS/CA S009:2013 INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS FOR CUSTOMER CABLING (WIRING RULES)
    3.1.65 Main Distribution Frame (MDF)
    a distributor that provides, or is intended to provide, an electrical termination point for a carrier’s twisted pair lead-in cabling.
    Note 1: The MDF is a defined network boundary point.

    3.1.66 network boundary
    the point which is deemed to be the boundary of a carrier’s telecommunications network for determining whether cabling or equipment is ‘customer cabling’ or ‘customer equipment’ for the purpose of technical regulation under Part 21 of the Telecommunications Act 1997 (the Act).

    See also figure J2 on pg 167.


    TELECOMMUNICATIONS ACT 1997 - SECT 22
    Customer cabling and customer equipment--boundary of a telecommunications network
    (4) If no regulations are in force for the purposes of subsection (1), then, for the purposes of sections 20, 21, 30, 349, 372B, 372C and 372V, the boundary of a telecommunications network is:
    (a) in a case where a telecommunications network is used to supply a carriage service to an end-user in a building by means of a line that enters the building--the point agreed between the customer and the carrier or carriage service provider who operates the telecommunications network, or, failing agreement:
    (i) if there is a main distribution frame in the building and the line is connected to the frame--the side of the frame nearest to the end-user;


    the carrier is only responsible to the first socket where there is no MDF or NTD present.
     
  16. Gunna

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    Boom



    Lawyered!
     
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    sarcasm missed....
     
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    elvis Old school old fool

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    Naplan online crumbles when 40K kids log on at once.

    Anyone having flashbacks to #CensusFail? Is load testing a done thing any more?
     
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    Of course load testing is a done thing, they just do it live now to save time
     
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    I'm glad my school isn't a naplan online school, not sure what will happen next year.

    I had a look at it quickly the other week, the header shows iis7, I lolled and went back to some other mundane task.
     

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