Consolidated Business & Enterprise Computing Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by elvis, Jul 1, 2008.

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    elvis Old school old fool

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    I don't know any of the levels business, nor do I want to. Everything sounds way too low, even for senior positions.

    They go on and on about GovCo offering "quality of life over pay", then wonder why everyone they hire loves doing not very much, and stuff doesn't get done.
     
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    I Thought government was the place you went to be utterly useless and get paid a motza.... when did that get changed?
     
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    Yeah I thought it was a nightmare to apply but once in you got a fortune. Last time I looked L2 helpdesk and low level sysadmins were eyeballing 6 figures
     
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    want to know which gov dept is paying L2 helldesk anywhere near $100k
     
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    I used to just trawl the gov jobs site, can't remember it's been a few years but I remember being blown away by the offered wages for jobs I was looking for.
     
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    I often wonder how many small time or just cheap ass MSPs do this. A long time back I worked for an MSP that not only stored their customers passwords and all other details in an excel file, but also reused the same password across multiple systems and multiple customers. They had no easy way of changing the passwords either, so when people left they weren't changed.
     
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    Most of them. I can tell you many of the super pricey ones do too. I haven't seen reused passwords but I see a lot of @ppliCati0nName1 for service accounts.
     
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    https://www.vox.com/recode/22583285/companies-remote-work-home-office-tsedal-neeley-harvard

    More of the same there. Post WFH, people are walking up to how much the office sucks. Flexibility is now top of everyone's employment wishlist.
     
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    CEO found out about our Microsoft Teams pilot and now wants in, along with all his direct reports. I just spoke to the person "managing" our Teams pilot. No documentation, instructions or a fucking clue even. The fuck has this pilot even been? "Here have Teams, I guess if you have problems let us know. Maybe. I dunno."

    I get to come in and clean it all up.

    I need to add a reminder 2 weeks before my annual review to write down all the times I came in and cleaned up other peoples shit.
     
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    looktall Working Class Doughnut

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    You have teams, so you probably also have one note
    Start tracking your clean up tasks in there.
    Or create yourself some helpdesk tickets for the work you're doing.
     
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    We started using ServiceNow visual task boards so I should just be able to scroll through all our tasks in the "Done" lane.
     
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    And how shit most middle management are, once mouth breathers are removed from proximity life becomes more pleasant...

    Now I'm retired from having to work and wound down my business to "only do things that interest me", I have suddenly become more busy after a 6 month period of saying no and waiting for interesting stuff.
     
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    elvis Old school old fool

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    I fear this is my future.

    Working for myself for 2 years now, still have the one large client, but trying to drop them to deal with lots of smaller clients. The money anxiety is always real (at least in my head, I probably should care a little less about that), but currently at 150% capacity and getting a bit burned out.

    Constantly hearing about everyone's lockdown boredom while you're going crazy for just a single day off is quite frustrating.

    Also just want to retire, honestly.
     
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    Yeah... being busy doing what you really want costs money and your enthusiasm causing even faster evaporation of savings. ;)

    PS - seeing more US based companies looking for AWS / Linux skills and 100% remote.
     
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    You need some of those sweet crypto gains, like some managed to get, to retire on.
     
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    Just for the bunch of posts.
    Across Services Australia ICT generally (it differs a bit between departments, and then some specialties, such as medical and legal get more again)
    Apprentice 46,621-57,208
    APS4 64,368-73,472
    APS5 71,790-79,806
    APS6 79,469-94,670
    EL1 99,400-113,471
    EL2 115,028-140,926
    (Numbers pulled from the enterprise agreement - https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2017/11/dhs-agreement-2017-2020.pdf )

    Apprentice is someone without a degree or experience in ICT, and that banding is over 3-4years
    It would be nice to say a rule of thumb is APS4 = Lvl1 helpdesk, APS5 Lvl2, APS6 Lvl3, EL1 Senior specialists, EL2 Tech leads
    But it gets a little muddled in the middle some times.
    (Also, OT can be payable on top of this, and these numbers don't include ~15% Super)
     
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    The good old “Protoduction” system.

    I had that years ago with a SharePoint rollout in a university. The head of IT wanted show the Vice Chancellor and his execs what a great job we were doing with a “shiny new thing”. SharePoint wasn’t ready for production and still had many gremlins to be ironed out, but suddenly the most senior and influential people were relying on it. Cue every help desk ticket for the new, beta system becoming a “dire emergency” job.

    It wouldn’t be so bad if our manager learned from the experience, but he did similar things over and over and we had to work our butts off to dig him out of the poo each time. For his trouble, he got promoted, so it worked for him, while giving me many grey hairs.
     
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    I'll take 'What is governance?' for $500 please
     
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    Rules and governance don't apply to me, this is why we paid a big fine to the ACCC do you think I'm going to abide by your pissy "not ready for production story"... make it so.

    PS - Pro tip, never show a suit / manglement anything until its DONE, as in ready for production, and never say it's close because than is also ready for production that day!
     
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    Not only is it ready for production because you can click a button and it does something, why has this project taken so long??
     
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