Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by elvis, Jul 1, 2008.
There is no greater proof of concept by testing it in production
Yeee Harrr let me get my spurs and cowboy hat...
works in GNS3, roll it out!
I was being sarcastic lol
I know, I was adding to the fun...
You guys dont wear cowboy hats at work?
i sit near a window so i keeps the sun on my eyes.
To make it cost effective, leverage BAU resources as part of your project team.
Cynicism and Sarcasm is reaching new heights in this thread....
What do you mean works? I haven't even switched the POC on? Let alone tested it.
Quick, make it core infrastructure.
DO IT LIVE!
Oh you have been working for government as well...
I hear you. It amazes me that, even in 2012, many vendors just assume their client-server products will always run over a 100+mb LAN. Some poor remote office on 1.5m dsl is the one to discover that the app just assumes that it has oodles of bandwidth and ultra low latency. Vendors should know better by now.
finance1 I am looking at you with this quote
So today I hear we are loosing our entire Unix team to redundancies. It works out at something like 100 years of experience will be walking out the door But it is all sorted, we are going to outsource it
If it was setup well it should run itself for a few years and then fall apart and be someone else's problem
That will be... fun
Thank you... you made me laugh IRL...
Why oh why do they do it, so many major out sourcing initiatives that where in the press in the past decade have all gone back in house after disaster, especially ones that involve "older" technologies.
The issues I'm seeing across multiple big clients in relation to tier 1 vendors is terrifying to say the least
I look at this thread and think 'yep, that sounds like my work' on nearly every single post.
Been there, done that.
Short answer: the business is fucked.
It's a vicious cycle. Vendors only talk to IT managers, and IT managers are clueless about the "minor details" of such annoyances as the physical infrastructure and logical configuration of their network. All that pesky stuff "should just work", and if it doesn't, can be fixed by BAU.
IT manager gets taken to lunch by vendor and told that buy buying their product he's making a good decision and going places. IT manager buys the product and tells IT to make it work or else, then sells it to the rest of the business as an awesome implementation, and one that shows he's on his way to a CIO position. Vendor gets feedback that the product is awesome, and continues making shit software oblivious to the actual technical requirements.
Around and around we go. Where it stops, nobody knows!
This isn't a startup you're talking about, is it?
No. That example in particular was a very well known financial org with over 2 million customers and over $15 billion in managed assets and funds. And what's worse is that they were technically a not-for-profit, so everything was supposed to be above board and reported on.
The stories I could tell you would make your head spin.
In totally unrelated circumstance, a few old colleagues of mine maintain close contact with each other, and report on the ever decaying state of the IT industry to each other whenever we see interesting news. This came through today: