Consolidated Business & Enterprise Computing Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Business & Enterprise Computing' started by elvis, Jul 1, 2008.

  1. Mac

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    That's nothing new though to IT. In fact, its nothing new to any business sector.

    I mean, how many useless lawyers, teachers, police, doctors are there out in their respective industries? No different in IT...

    Its not so much what happened to professional IT, but what happened to professionalism generally.
     
  2. thetron

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    Well this company is setup in a way. You've got different departments with different levels of access to get stuff sorted because required to protect their utilities

    Problem is you have BA and account managers which come along say "We want to run this software and we need done by friday". This still happens in that secure department and nobody talks to each other until the last min

    I keep telling the story.
    I did recent software deployment for 5 PC and all manual install that took about 2 hrs. When that same morning you've now being told every PC on that floor will need this installed
    - Shit
    - Asking you
    - This program requires admin access to be deployed. Do I need todo manual installs?
    - How can we use SCCM to deploy this?

    We're able to package the application for remote deployment at the last min. IT is like Batman! Saving peoples lives
     
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    elvis Old school old fool

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    Either way, still not a reason to accept any of it. Corruption is a disease.
     
  4. thetron

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    I think happened at Construction company in Brisbane recently. One of the Managers was getting kick backs from IT companies
     
  5. Wolfje

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    Corruption is something that belongs in movies.
     
  6. bigfellla

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    Original question of the OP.

    The reason its gone down hill is because people finally worked out the terminology and the fact it really isn't that hard to fix a computer.....
     
  7. power

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    Most ignorant statement of the day....
     
  8. Wolfje

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    :confused:
     
  9. ewok85

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    Not like any of it is hard - take networks, plug in a few cables and off you go, nothing difficult about that... :rolleyes:
     
  10. bigfellla

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    Im talking about the industry in general, yes networking specialist are still highly paid and trained, but the average IT guy out there doesn't get paid stuff all these days. Why, because unlike the old days where everything was seen as complicated, the DIY crowd has moved in.
     
  11. thetron

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    I agree. People still don't know how to plug a phone into the wall

    I am being paid todo that next week
     
  12. Swathe

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    Yep, sure is!

    And my god, how easy is it to install software these days too! Just click Next > Next > Next > Hell yes I want to restart my machine!!!!!

    People bitch way too much, we dont even have to change everything, the software already has the defaults in there to do it automagically.

    I'm off to go kick over sandcastles with Larry Ellison, peace bitches :leet:
     
  13. power

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    And they proceed to make a huge fucking mess.
     
  14. bigfellla

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    Lol at all the IT people defending their territory. A laugh.

    When a company can outsource its entire IT department to India, the landscape has changed. Call me ignorant as much as you like, but with 2 engineering degrees and science degree, I would not find it hard to prove you wrong. There are many examples since I began working in IT in 1992 where now, you wouldn't dream of calling in an IT 'professional'.
     
  15. PabloEscobar

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    I love that people with 2 Engineering degrees and a science degree post a useless post, without reading a large portion of the thread.

    Edumacation - It Werks!
     
  16. cvidler

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    Just cause you can, doesn't mean it's a good idea for anything but immediate staff related cost savings. I see it all the time, every outsourced IT support contract ends up costing more than planned, as the contractor will only ever do whats in the contract, and invariably, the business never gets everything it actually needs doing into the contract, so there's variations, penalties etc.

    Well that's because everything to do with a computer is now an 'IT job'. helpdesk is not IT, html coder is not IT, installing Win7 on 1000 desktops is not IT etc.

    Determining policy/design/architecture of computer systems (hardware and/or software) to meet business requirements is IT.
     
  17. millsy

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    So much this post. Nothing at all about helpdesk is professional IT.
     
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    You should start your own information technology services company. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yeah man, you're 100% right!

    Building enterprise finance systems, storing terabytes of business critical data on clustered file systems, pushing out applications that will be accessed by millions of high paying customers - all of these things are so goddamn trivial now.

    These IT guys are just trying to protect their jobs. They're so arrogant. All of these things are dead simple now days, and should just be sent off to Indian contractors. There's no reason for businesses to waste money on IT wages any more when this stuff is all so easy to do compared to 10 years ago.
     
  20. Swathe

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    Um, I was being extremely sarcastic.
     

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