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Crazy video card pricing 2021-2022

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by Slug69, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. phreeky82

    phreeky82 Member

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    I doubt the remainder of those PCs is ending up in a dump. Probably a basic GPU thrown in and used by themselves if they're a business (i.e. may as well profit from the GPUs when we replace our desktops), or sold off with or without another GPU.

    The stupidity of this whole craze though...
     
  2. alexc

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    I've seen them turn up on eBay :)

    It's been going on for a while!

    You can actually get a decent deal on them!

    They tend to be high spec'ed Dell's or other brand with decent CPUs.
     
  3. Kelvin

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    It would interesting to know when Dells cards switched over to LHR...

    Dell prebuilts were always a good source of 30x0 series cards...

    The alieware machines, were always a bit expensive.. but. the XPS 8940s were pretty cheap on special and the G5 Gaming were even cheaper..

    (1) [eBay Plus] Dell RTX 3070, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, G5 Gaming i7-10700F $1793.22, XPS 8940 i7-10700F $1894.62 Delivered @ Dell eBay - OzBargain.

    You could even get some of the xps8940 with 10700/11700, with onboard video, so you could "harvest" the videocard and still have a functional machine business machine.. to sue or sell off...


     
  4. Kelvin

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    Its interesting how the video card pricing, really hasn't affected the laptop market at all..

    Bought one of these earlier this year for $1283.56
    REVIEW - Gaming Laptop - Asus TUF A15 | OCAU Forums (overclockers.com.au)
    Mining on it from the start..

    earlier this week, order this
    (1) Acer Nitro 5 15.6-Inch i5-10300H/8GB/512GB SSD/RTX3060 6GB Laptop - $1,198 + Shipping (Free C&C) @ Harvey Norman - OzBargain

    and picked it up today..
    REVIEW - ACER Nitro 5 - AN515-55-5838 - Brief Thoughts | OCAU Forums (overclockers.com.au)

    parts wise
    Intel 10300H - $180
    500gb WD SS 530NVME SSD - $60
    8gb 3200 micron sodimm - $50
    Mobile 3060 with 6gb ram - $700
    motherboard / powersupply -
    Screen 15" - 144HZ FHD - $150
    Trackpad / RGB keyboard - $70
    Webcam - $30
    Windows 10 home - $150

    hmmm... the CPU / SSD / RAM and GPU is worth about $990 already..
    $209 for motherboard / case / pwoer supply / battery / Screen / trackpad / keyboard / wireless / Webcam and windows..
    Complete steal

    Cheapest build you could do is

    10100F - $129
    Motherboard with wireless - $120
    Case and crap power supply $50
    Ram -- 8gb - $45
    Keybaord and mouse -$30
    Webcam - $30
    Cheapest new monitor 22" for $185
    SSD nvme 500gb - $60
    Windows 10 home (oem $137) - (or the dogdy aliexpress ones)
    total - $649 without windows 10 home or videocard..
    total $786 with Windows 10 oem (plus assembly costs) plus graphics card..

    the RX6600 at $699 or the RTX 2060 $799 or the RTX 3060 at around $1000 are the closest equivalents.

    It would seem the best bang for cheap gaming computer, would in fact be one of these chpear gaming laptops.


    $1199 with on special.. need another stick fo stick $50.. = $1250.. only one year warranty though..

    Mining is 33MH (none of the 3060 laptop GPUs seem to be LHR), around $2.60 after electrical costs... os around $474.50 in returns after 6 months.. maybe $949 after twelve months...

    I guess.. the question is how long the machine would last..?

    I woudl have thought... buying a machine for 1250 with the extra ram, suing it and mining for 9 months.. (~$700 reruns) assuming mining returns keep up.. and then selling the machine, (with 3 months warranty left for half the price eg $625) could work out!!!! and even leave you a couple of dollars in front.

    Hopefully by then.. GPUs prices would have normalised..
     
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  5. lonewolf1983

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    I bought a prebuilt asus box, took the CPU and Graphics card out (3700x and 2060s), put in my old 1600AF and 1650s
    Essentially got the CPU for free after i sold it off and the card is mining away nicely.
     
  6. phreeky82

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    Bothering with all that might not be a large effort, but most people still couldn't be bothered. Time isn't free, particularly if it isn't something you enjoy and already in a decent paying job.

    It's like the mining, setting that up somewhere in the house isn't always easy or practical. Some of us live in locations where the heat is a big negative in the house.

    When the flip side is to work a few extra hours, get paid the few hundred bucks and just buy the better part.
     
  7. Spyder6052

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    Heat is my biggest issue, dont use aircon so ambient temp is always 30-35 gen11 and 3080 like to make a lot of it when gaming, mining on it would make it melt
     
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  8. z3099528

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    Another day, another supply expert discussing the current shortage. https://www.pcgamer.com/au/why-you-...ics-cards-according-to-a-supply-chain-expert/

    Reposting Willy Shih's interview here as well https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/31/...p-shortage-tsmc-samsung-ps5-decoder-interview

    Both of them seem to be echoing Lisa Su's suggestion that Julyish 2022 is when supply will ease up. Coincidentally ethereum difficulty bomb (eip- 4345) was recently discussed by eth devs and pushed to Julyish 2022 as well (independent of merge date) https://twitter.com/TimBeiko/status/1449051501926629378?t=V68Snkgyzwm5cjfGl11Wsg&s=19

    Hopefully it means a glut of video cards then, but moore's law is dead reported that nvidia may be slowing production q4, 2021 to avoid this situation.
     
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  9. adamsleath

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    now hiring:
    supply and demand adjustment co-ordinator. :p
     
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    ordered a 3060ti for $1050, lhr unlocks are making them ok for mining but will use for my primary gpu also so happy to pay a premium
     
  12. Cap One

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    That's a good price in the current market, I paid 1200 for my 3060Ti LHR not long ago. I'm quite impressed with it's performance too, seems to be about 10% slower than a 3070 and powers my 3440x1440 monitor just fine.
     
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  13. lonewolf1983

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    Yeah pricing was good
    I do photo editing and some of the newer AI stuff makes good use of the newer cards tech
    I do game a bit and have 4k monitors, but only play older titles
     
  14. randomman

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    Ain't that the truth. I always wonder if I'm doing better than these flippers. Seems lucrative but maybe not enough to be your full-time job.
     
  15. The Beast

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    Interesting to look at our conversations from May, clearly there was no bubble, Eth has just hit an all-time high and continues to grow.

    Interestingly if you were to have bought those 3x 3080s (in the link above) for $7500 back in May you could have mined $5000 AUD (by today’s prices) and could still mine $5k - $8k more before the merge.
     
  16. Slavetonet

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    Do you find the 3060ti struggle with that 3440 x 1440 resolution?
    I have 4 monitors - 3440x1440 - I am hoping it will be fine doing desktop stuff.
    Currently running 2 x AMD R280 to drive them all. But the refresh rate can only be driven to 100Hz.
     
  17. jjjc_93

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    I tried a bit of mining on my 3080 lhr after reading some comments here. A semi decent ~70mhs at 230w but the heat that accumulates in my room in a day is ridiculous. It's like having the heater on in the middle of summer. Zero chance I will be continuing with that, as attractive as the money I could accumulate would be. Maybe if we were in the middle of winter lol. Can't imagine how hot those mining room setups would be to live with.
     
  18. lonewolf1983

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    Lots of focus on dropping core clocks and voltages to help but yep heat is the byproduct.
    I've got a couple of machines spread through the house for the heat/noise but will become interesting in a Perth Summer - we usually have air-con on anyway
     
  19. alexc

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    So, I've got 2x HHR 3060Ti cards, which I bought in December last year for around $850.

    They are in the kids gaming PCs.

    Could I sell those for a profit and trade up to LHR 3070 or better cards for gaming?

    Is that worth doing?
     
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    You would get good coin for them. What is HHR though?
     

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