[WORKLOG] Custom ITX case with small custom loop

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  1. Tazor

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    Working on a custom system that will likely live in a custom case.

    This is a personal project, a case design for my needs, so some of the choices may seem strange to some.

    The case concept is simple: ITX Mobo, ITX GPU, SFX PSU, 140mm EK-MLC Phoenix Radiator core in the front, around or under 10L.

    To help me bring this to light I have been chatting to the guys at PC Design Foundry who are a relatively new player in the custom case fabrication game and they've been extremely quick and responsive in helping me kick start this project.

    To see some more of their work either check out their website above or check out diceboii13's expandable case concept here.

    The system will use an EK-MLC Phoenix 140 core radiator/pump/res combo and a CPU block for my 9700K and will be pretty close to each other.
    Because it's such a short loop and only has 4 inlet/outlets I was thinking about consturcting the entire loop using angle fittings and solid extenders, but I was wondering if there were any particular issues doing this?

    I mean from my perspective this could almost aid cooling since air would move across the tubes and dissipate any heat they draw from the coolant, but because I have never done a loop with no actual tubing before I didn't know if I was walking into a bit of a trap.

    Anyone done this or at least loops with large amount of fixed fittings and extenders making up a large portion of the loop?
     
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    It will make zero difference compared to hard tubing.

    There was some article I remember some mob doing ages ago and they made a loop out of nothing but like 50 angle fittings with zero problems with flow or temps

    You're over thinking it massively just build it and you'll see everything is fine.

    Only hard part will be not being able to see if you have any air bubbles in there other then your res.
     
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    Me overthinking things? Never!
    There's no clear res, it's all black, so I'll have to guess!
     
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    also hard tubing, as in the actual tubes makes no difference (i'm sure some one will come in and point out a 0.25 degree of cooling it may or may not add to your temps) to the actual cooling potential of your build.
     
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    There will be no issue of you using fittings and extenders to construct your loop.

    If all G1/4 waterblock ports are in close proximity of each other then it is pretty much a no brainer.

    If done with thought, care and designed well it should look really good and function as intended.
     
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    That's my thinking, the case is under 7 litres total volume with the radiator mounted directly in front of the motherboard.
    Because the pump and res are integrated into the radiator it only needs to go from CPU to Rad over about 100mm of distance.
     
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    case flexing is something to consider
    eg: look at why automotive & aircraft use flexible hoses in between rigidit setups
    maybe it just over thinking also:)
     
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    I mean it's going to be a very small case but I was planning on ordering some ZMT black rubber tube along with the rigid fittings in the event it just's line up and gets a bit bendy.
     
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    If you incorporate some swivel extenders/adapters into the loop (general example here), you will make the concern of flex - redundant.

    A case with under 7 liters volume is not going to flex enough with everything installed to be a cause of concern - unless the case has terrible build quality (especially with my suggestion above).

    Looking forward to seeing the finished product. :thumbup:
     
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    Here here, should look awesome.
     
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    Yeah I'm planning on using a couple of those - one of each run - since the loop will need to go: 90 degree from CPU > 90 degree to the right above RAM (with one run 20mm higher to run in parallel) > direct to radiator

    Rough mock-up of fittings I'm planning using: https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/925195/Watercooling

    Will have to wait until I have all the base components so I can do measurements and I'm going to be using Protocase for the case itself probably, so I might update with some photos from the 3D CAD software they have for their designs.
     
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    Okay, got progress on this as I have been in touch with PC Design foundry who will be helping with design and fabrication of the case.

    Gonna post some photos of the CAD render a bit later in a new thread, but once I have dimensions I can get to work with planning the loop.
     
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    Just consider fan vibration, having some slack in the system aids in dampening various vibrations.
     
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    That's a fair point and something I didn't consider.
     
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    Subjective, most good quality fans have vibration dampening pads built into each corner to aid with this.

    If you are a person with very sensitive hearing and are in a room with complete and utter silence and you have your head close to the case then yeah this may present itself to you. :shock: :rolleyes:
     
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    I've been drumming for 13 years, I'm half deaf at the best of times lol

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    Thought you guys may be interested in the case it's going into - just finalising some design aspects before starting work on it.
    Design and renders done by PC Design Foundry - https://www.pcdesignfoundry.com
     
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    Oh that second one is fucking porn.


    EDIT: Wait, are they the same and the front cowl comes off with the side!?!
     
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    Yep it's a U-style single panel that covers front and both sides.
     
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    Yeah, that's a great idea mate, design looks tops.
     
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    Thanks man, pretty close to finalizing it, just a few links to iron out now
     
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