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Dedicated ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Discussion | Released!! | Reviews | See OP!!

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by DiGiTaL MoNkEY, Aug 12, 2008.

  1. DiGiTaL MoNkEY

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    Considering how big the General 4800 series discussion has become, this is created for the discussion of ATI's Radeon HD 4870 X2 High End Solution which has been released on the 12th August 2008. Now lets see how ATI and Nvidia battle it out in the GPU wars!

    Continue chat in the original 4-series thread, once this one dies down.

    Press Release: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~127542,00.html
    AMD's Product Page: http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_radeonhd4870x2.aspx?p=1
    AMD's Spec's Page: http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_radeonhd4870x2.aspx?p=3
    Key Features Page: http://game.amd.com/us-en/unlock_radeonhd4870x2.aspx?p=2

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    Review Listing:

    AnandTech - http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3372
    Bit-tech - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/08/13/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4870-x2/1
    Club Overclocker - http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/video/sapphire/hd4870x2_2GB/page1.asp
    CustomPC - http://www.custompc.co.uk/reviews/604626/ati-radeon-hd-4870-x2.html#
    DriverHeaven - http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=607
    ExtremeTech - http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2327863,00.asp
    FiringSquad - http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_ati_radeon_4870_x2_performance_review/
    Guru3D - http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-4870-x2-review-crossfire/
    Hardware Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-radeon-hd-4870-x2-2gb-video-card-review.html
    Hardware Secrets - http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/602
    Hardware Zone - http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=2653
    Hexus - http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14928
    Hot Hardware - http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/ATI-Radeon-HD-4870-X2--AMD-Back-On-Top/
    LegitReviews - http://www.legitreviews.com/article/766/1/
    MadShrimps - http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=864
    NeoSeeker - http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/hd4870x2/
    Overclockers Club - http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/sapphire_4870x2/
    PC Perspective - http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=605
    T-Break - http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=627
    Tech Report - http://techreport.com/articles.x/15293
    TechGage - http://techgage.com/article/palit_radeon_hd_4870_x2_1gb_-_amd_reclaims_gpu_supremacy/
    TechPowerUp - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_4870_X2/
    TechWareLabs - http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/video/palit-4870x2//
    Tom's Hardware - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4870-x2-amd,1992.html
    TweakTown - http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1541/sapphire_radeon_hd_4870_x2_in_crossfirex/index.html


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    Specifications:

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    Process: 55nm
    Cores: Two RV770 GPU's
    Core Clock: 750MHz
    Memory Capacity: 2048MB
    Memory Clock: 3600MHz (900MHz X 4)
    Memory Type: GDDR5
    Memory Interface: 2 x 256-bit
    Unified Stream Processors: 1600
    Standard DirectX Version: 10.1
    Video Playback Technology: Avivo HD (UVD2)
    Interface: PCI-Express 2.0 (Backward Compatible)
    Power Connector(s): 8-Pin & 6-Pin PCI-E Connector
    MSRP: $549USD / $669AUD

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    Pricing/Where to Buy?:

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    PriceSpy: http://www.pricespy.com.au/pno_13547.html

    StaticICE: http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=4870+X2
     
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  2. Ice009

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    I just read TOX's review plus the Hexis one and the single card power consumption numbers seem to vary by quite a bit.

    Is it their testing methods that make them different? Both seem to be running pretty basic systems at 3.0GHZ.
     
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    It comes down to what hardware they are using, thats the biggest factor, and sometimes the power meter they use.
     
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  5. SupaGu

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    i just wanna know if a 550w PSU is enough to power one of these babies!

    edit: i'm going with a 620w PSU just incase :)
     
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    For a single 4870X2 it is, but it comes down to what hardware you already have in your system.
     
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    That's the thing TOX mentioned in his system the power draw in Crossfire was 778W. Single card was 431. TOX also said that those numbers are with his system running the bare minimum of components. 550 might not be quite enough.

    I was thinking of getting a HX1000 for my new system incase I want to Crossfire two of these X2's down the line, but TOX's numbers are making me second guess this decision. If you've got a system that is fully loaded with tons of drives and an overclocked Quad Core would the HX1000 even be enough. I would just stick with what you have now and only upgrade the PSU when/if you go Crossifre otherwise you might find that you spent money on a 1000 watt PSU for nothing and you need something beefier.
     
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    prices keep coming down ... Itestate just listed PCI-e 4870 x2 2GB PowerColor for $635 :)
     
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    Like i said it depends on your system, i only have a pair of dvd drives and 4 hard drives, plus a similar system to what TweakTown have, and i'd still get away with a 550watt psu...a good quality one that is. But i'd still go for a Corsair 620W psu for any new systems, for a single card.
     
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    So who actually has them in stock ?

    AusPC just emailed me and said they aren't expecting the Sapphire card till late next week..
     
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    I have a lot of faith in my power meter - it was about $1500 US, it really is one of the top of the line ones. Not one of those $20 ones that you plug into the wall socket

    Edit: Just spoke to Rex at PC Maniacs, he had stock this morning, but sold them but has more stock coming in. http://pcmaniacs.com.au/hd4870x2-750mhz-ddr5-pcie-preorder-p-4479.html prob worth emailing / calling - He should have more stock tommorow he said :)
     
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    Not bagging your power meter :p just before the full reviews came out there was a variety of power ratings that added to the confusion about power usage when in CrossfireX..now it looks like most people should be looking at a 800-850watt PSU to be happy with dual 4870X2's, and that may not be enough if you put a highly clocked quad core into the system.
     
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    I was going to write, that from the looks of the numbers TOX had if going with a new system a 600-620 should be the starting point for a single card. Like you're saying though if you've already got a decent 550W then that might be OK. :).

    I didn't know you were using a high quality one like that. I will trust your numbers a lot more than those other sites using the cheaper ones. Also, like DM said we weren't bagging your numbers just saying that there seems to be lots of different numbers thrown around in different previews/reviews.
     
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    ITestate are going to have apparently quite few in stock by Thursday ... with a tiny bit of luck by tomorrow ...

    I'll just keep rining around ... will be interesting how my little project slapping two Dtek Fuzion GPU v2 blocks on the 48770x2 works out :) hehehe
     
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    TOX ... any chance you can measure the hole distances (around the GPUs) on the cards ? I just want to confirm its the same hole distances as the 4870 ...
     
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    So lets say...

    550-600watt (or better) PSU For a single 4870X2*
    850watt (or better) PSU For a dual 4870X2's*

    Figures are general estimates and can vary based on what CPU and pc hardware is used.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't mean to say you guys thought my numbers where wrong, I just know most sites use the cheap power connectors, so in the event that someone goes well these 10 sites say 700 watt but TOX says 780 watt, i'm going with the majority :D
     
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    There is absolutly no way in ehll I would have an 800 Watt PSU for a Crossfire X HD 4870 X2, the thing is my power numbers are drawn from 3DMark 06, i accidently left my power thingy running at one stage though and hit over 820 watt
     
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    Yep thats fair enough, just going on general reviews, with basic systems. As for the 820watt power usage..its more of a spike i guess compared to when you were doing load testing for the graphs?
     
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    I don't know why you would buy a power supply that was just going to handle it. It gives you no upgrade path eather.
     

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