[WIN7] Dedicated Windows 7 Discussion

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  1. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Looks like some early info on the next OS is filtering through (M1 release currently)....not long to wait either until final release......

    http://apcmag.com/7874/windows_7_to_be_released_next_year

    Apparently the last Windows OS to be in 32bit.

    Some alledged videos here:

    http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080126/windows-7-milestone-1-video/

    On first observations it just looks like more of Vista to me.

    Initial user thoughts from someone who has used it:

    http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080122/neowin-forum-review-windows-7-m1/

    PRO TIPS/HINTS/TRICKS/FIXES

    OBTAINING A COPY OF THE BETA

    PM me and I can assist.
     
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    its a start...
     
  3. iTool

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    I thought I heard the same thing about Vista before it was released... but maybe since they are trying to push this one out earlier than previously thought they think it is too soon to go 64bit only.
     
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    Even though programs are beginning to push the 3gb RAM address maximum?

    I'd say it should be 64b only.
     
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    same....all processor for the last 2 years have been 64bit....dont need a 32bit OS, especially with them including emulation in the OS...
     
  6. YoungFarting

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    Lets not be to hasty in judging it.
    It's still early days and anything can be changed spec wise.

    Lets not forget that until SP1, vista should be regarded as being in RC stage. :lol:
     
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    I was disappointed when I heard they were even releasing Vista in a 32 bit version, but the next release as well? Ah well, at least they've stated it will be the last.
     
  8. Mystery Man

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    The thing is is that most people are still using 32bit so i guess Microsoft is waiting for the majority of people to switch first before forcing people to use a 64bit only operating system. Imagine the outcry from people if vista was 64bit only. It just wouldnt have worked especially since there was a lack of drivers & so forth.
     
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    Yeah, I agree with the rest. This next version should be 64bit only. I'm sure it will contain a 32bit thunk like Vista64 and XP64. 64bit PC chips have been out since 2004... c'mon already.
     
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    Small business just isn't anything like ready for Vista, let alone 64bit Vista.
    OEM XP was extended by MS reluctantly as all the local Ma 'n' Pa shops turned to various Linux distro's to support their small business customers' existing software.
    IMHO, MS discovered a market driven limit to their OS control. All 64bit is coming PR from MS should be seen in the context that they now accept this fundamental limitation to their power to force a take it or leave it situation on the market.
    Personally, I'd love a 64bit only regime but it ain't going to happen any time soon.
     
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    Cmon chilled, you know better than that.

    In alpha stages every new windows version has looked like the last :/
     
  12. Logistics

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    Ignorance my friend, ignorance
     
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    Realistically, it's the little people that will push Microsoft's bottom line along, not big business. Big business can do deals with Apple or Linux to get what they like - but the small businesses who buy legit software are going to be the bulk of their ongoing business. These people don't like having to throw their PC away every couple years. Buy a tool, it should work for years to come.

    MS has been quite arrogant about its market position of recent times. I think they fail to see the dramatic ground being covered by other companies who aren't so ready to dictate the way their software gets used. Adobe is a fabulous example. PDF and Flash are ubitiquous now...
     
  14. Suki

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    Yeah the legacy issue MS missed allowing for - what ever the local accountants use. lol
    Seriously. One side of my life is a Hereford stud. All the specialised weighing, breeding records, genetic data base that requires is tied into hardware linking cattle scales to a breed wide genetic performance reporting/predicting program and my own records.
    No way in the world does that get changed to suit an OS. Quite the opposite. Just like all the other small farmers supplied by grey case builder shops.

    I think MS now recognise that reality. The fact that XP is still on sale pretty much tells us so.
     
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    I wholeheartedly disagree with this sentiment. Small businesses are far more able to run with Vista (or new operating systems for that matter) than big business. Small businesses generally don't run that much specialised software - accounting software such as MYOB or Quickbooks release compatible updates much faster than larger ERP systems, and the mid to high turnover rate of small businesses in this day and age mean that newcomers buying new systems will often purchase with OEM new MS operating systems installed, either at the suggestion of their small business specialist, or from Harvey Norman or Dell/HP.

    Little to no 'Ma 'n' Pa' shops will go with Linux, simply because its far far easier to find small business specialists with Microsoft backgrounds, and it requires less after sales support to run MS based Windows machines with the much more common windows based programs (MYOB, QB) than any Linux solutions. Can you name me any Linux equivalents of the above two popular programs?
     
  16. Flamin Joe

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    Why is there always the same old reaction to Alpha/Early Beta releases, "disappointed", "same as <insert previous OS here>". What do people honestly expect? :confused:
     
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    Really? I don't recall early alpha builds of Vista looking like XP. I think I might take another look, maybe my memory is failing me : )
     
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    ill make the jump to 64bit with Win7 simply because thanks to vista there will be a high level of 64bit driver support by the time its released.

    actually the early alpha vista builds were a carbon copy of the XP UI (just with a few different colour schemes)
     
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    I'll add to the 32bit bitch.

    The biggest problem with Vista 64 (and XP 64 to a degree) is driver support. (This has greatly improved in the past 12 months though!)

    Get rid of the 32bit option, and (mostly) solve the problem. As was with 98->2000->XP etc etc, some hardware will "die a driver a death", only to be replaced with newer hardware revisions. But oh well!

    Also, I remember playing with very early longhorn alpha's, it was NOT an XP copy. Longhorn had limited sidebar, very very unstable versions of glass.. (Explorer was half way between XP and Vista!).

    Windows 7, is not going to be a complete re-write. Wait for 2010+ for that.
     
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    Correct! I distinctly remember sidebar and some transparency, although button and title bars did in fact look similar to XP. It was a transition phase. In these videos I see absolutely nothing new whatsoever.

    I don't see a major overhaul either, just look at the timeframes they are working with. I feel it will be more of a refinement or update to Vista as it is now.
     

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