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Dell 2407 Review (Rev A02)

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by koma_white, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. koma_white

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    I've been a happy member of the CRT camp for many, many years now (as have most of us) and after finally convincing myself i needed an LCD i started to shop around - this was 3 months ago. You see, after being surrounded by expensive toys for the last few years - no thanks to my credit card - i'd become accustomed to the quality items; yet whilst still being a full-time student i certainly am anything but frivolous with my money.

    Coming from one of the larger and bulkier of the CRT's, a beloved Philips 201P, i had high expectations to whatever would be basking me in light for the next few thousand hours of work and geekdom. So my search started in the sensible end of the spectrum with the 20" widescreen LCD's. After looking around i realised that it would be more of a side step, or even a downgrade moving from my 21" CRT, and so my search went bigger. Next step up was the 24" widescreen lcd's and there certainly was a forboding price hike to go along with this supposed luxury - but wow was it worth it. I also glimpsed a couple of 30" widescreen LCD's which were absolutely jaw dropping, but when realising i'd have to spend another $400 on a second graphics card to run it well my brain and my wallet agreed - No.

    After missing out on the most recent Bulk Buy for the Dell 2405FPW i turned my interest to the Dell 2407FPW, even with all the bad press that had surrounded its rather lackluster release. Well i'm here to say that if there were problems... there aren't any more.

    After a few little hiccups involving shipping logistics and tracking (or lack of), i received two boxes from Dell. The first and least important was a small box with a power cable in it, the second and most important was the 2407FPW box. Whilst the delivery guy was still standing there i had a quick glance at the revision model to be pleasantly surprised by an A02! For those wanting a bit of history on the model, the A00 was plagued with banding and text shadow, whilst the A01 saw markable improvements there were still issues. I think the delivery guy thought i was crazy when i actually got more excited by the revision number on the label, than at the size of the box.

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    After taking delivery i shuffled it down the hallway and into the study, then carefully opened it up to be greated by a very well packed box of goodies. The standard contents include the 2407FPW itself, the stand, a USB cable, DVI cable, analogue video cable, an installation cd, and a few bits of paper.

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    The monitor comes with the analogue cable attached by default; not sure why as the first thing i did was remove it. Promptly then attached the base and stood it up to marvel at it's glory. At this point one of my housemates walked by who recently purchased a 19" yumcha LCD, his response 'wooah!'

    I promptly got it set up and the first thing i checked for as soon as i'd gathered my thoughts was the text blurring, of which i'm proud to report there is NONE.

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    After taking this photo i went and enable the Microsoft True-type image smoothing as personally i find it easier to read. Some people love it, others hate it... but coming from a CRT this made the leap a little less daunting.

    Next up was the gradient test. Now as most of the readers will know the 2407FPW has been plagued by banding in it's Rev A00 and in some A01's, but i'm proud to say that Dell have hit the nail on the head in the case of this fine specimen of an A02 - ... as long as you keep it in 'Desktop' colour management mode. You see, they've implemented some new fandangled colour/image trickery which resulted in some rather abhorent banding.
    Anyway, here's the photo you all wanted to see.

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    ... and just for a comparison... here's the same image on my Philips 201P aperture grille CRT.

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    After a quick run through the nVidia colour calibration setup i loaded up my new widescreen backdrop - a warehouse style picture of one of TVR's most beautiful creatures, the T350. I've spanned it across one side of the 2407 and one side of the 201P just for a bit of a comparison. I think this pretty clearly displays the difficulty i had in setting up the 2407 for accurate colour; in order to get the colour response i was after i had to up the brightness to 22 within the monitor controls. I'm still experimenting as to what works for me, but i've left it at this setting for the moment.

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    Here's a side by side shot of my 201P with the new 2407, just so you can see the size difference. If you can learn to love the LCD image quality, then you'll certainly appreciate the extra desktop.

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    Next up i fired up Call of Duty 2 just to see what the fuss was about this widescreen gaming thing. My initial response after reconfiguring the game to deal with the new resolution (which it supports by default), was a jaw dropping wow! I think every gamer need to see what they're missing out on. I just wish more games supported the widescreen format properly.

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    The last thing i tested in this review was the image quality with a couple of different video formats just to see how well they scaled and displayed. First off the bat was my old favourite, The Fifth Element. I always like watching the operatic scene for the music and more importantly in this case, the colours.

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    The photo's really don't do it justice as in real life the screen is far more impressive for video viewing. You've got to remember all these movies were intended for widescreen viewing, so it's quite at home on the 2407FPW.

    Last but not least i remembered i had the WMV 1080i demo video called 'Step Into Liquid'. The extra resolution and detail offered in this clip is a sizeable leap up from DVD quality and reassured me that the next generation formats (BluRay & HDVD) actually had something worth while for myself. Previously i hadnt really seen a purpose to a higher resolution video, but after watching this through a couple of time i'm keen for even higher resolution video's still!

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    Just to let you know, the camera i used for these photos (Sony DSC-LC1) has a tendency to do it's metering within the centre 10% of the image and then completely ignore the rest of the viewing area. This means that the actual display area of the lcd screen is usually correctly metered, the background is completely out of kilt.

    So in conclusion, so far i'm completely pleased with the Dell 2407FPW. It's a great lcd monitor and certainly a huge step up from the last large LCD i spent any time with (a horrible 24ms Viewsonic 21"). Anyone whose holding off getting an LCD - unless you really do spend every waking hour doing photoadjustments, just go get an LCD like this Dell and then kick yourself for not doing it sooner. Specifically, this Dell 2407 lcd is the pick of the bunch when price vs performance is the decider. There are panels with better image quality out there (Eizo), but they certainly do come with the higher price tag.

    Final scores: (as requested)

    Aesthetics (design): 8.5/10
    Really well designed base and mounting, nice unobtrusive thin bezel. My only qualm and the reason i marked it down is that to push the buttons on the bottom right of the screen i find i have to put my fingers behind it and use the buttons with my thumb. Something like nice light touch sensitive buttons would've been perfect, but i guess it would increase the price.

    Image clarity: 10/10
    Every single pixel is brilliant! I've used other LCD's in the past and for clarity i almost always have to give a 10/10. They're a joy to use.

    Colour representation: 7/10
    I'm still comparing this to my 201P in this regard, so the reduction in visible colour range is what caused me to mark it down the most. Black, whilst being pretty good for an LCD is still not black enough for my liking. I felt in games this wasnt an issue, but in movies it was slightly irritating. The major downfall for the 2407FPW is that to get the colour response it's capable of you have to wind the brightness up to retina burning levels which i'm just not willing to do. My compramise was to leave the brightness on 20-30, as higher than that was unbearable for me.

    Response: 8/10
    The supposed lag that is present on some LCD's i though i was experiencing until i enabled VSync and from then on it was near perfect. An ever so slight lag compared to my 144hz gaming on my CRT, but still very very good. Even with my high expectations i had very very little if no ghosting at all.

    Value: 8.5/10
    The Dell really is the cheapest 24" widescreen 1920x1200 computer lcd money can buy. I really did try to find something that compared in the money stakes, but nothing came close. The reason i marked it down is that it's a monstrous jump up from the price of the 20" widescreens - so much so that i could've easily purchased 2x 20" for the price of the single 24"! The warranty is what made be give it the extra half a point; as i opted for the 5 year warranty, i know that if it decides to bite the dust at any point in time, i've got a replacement monitor (in theory) the day after i call Dell.

    Overall: 8.5/10
    All the previous niggling issues with the 2407 appear to have been ironed out, leaving none of the benefits of purchasing a 2405 (IMHO). I wouldnt trade my 2407 for an 2405 any day of the week. Top quality monitor, at a pretty good price. My only complaint is simply one of a CRT user at heart, and thats in regards to the contrast and the slightly incomplete colour range - again ONLY compared to a top quality CRT. As LCD's go, this one is a brilliant buy.

    As a little post script, i felt it important to note that despite the secure packaging my monitor came in there was evidence of physical damage to the plastic bezel and to the panel itself. Nothing major but certainly something that i'll be discussing with Dell in the near future; simply a scuff mark approximately 14mm long that will definitely not buff off.
     
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  2. aL4n

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    nice lil review :thumbup:
     
  3. wahoo84

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    Nice review.

    Maybe put a few /10 for like quality, value etc just to see what you think? ;)
     
  4. tsw01

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    It is very good!
     
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    Done and done.
    I knew i'd forgotten to do something... as i had intended on giving it a numerical grade.
     
  6. MR CHILLED

    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    Glad to see you don't have any of the early issues with banding etc. Must be a relief! Welcome to the Dell 24" club :leet:
     
  7. stiben

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    I couldn't agree more :)
    http://www.widescreengamingforum.com
     
  8. Amfibius

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    Thanks for the great review :)

    Just a tip - if you run multiple monitors, the easiest way to get the two of them to look the same is to use a colour calibrator, like a Colorvision Spider, or a Getrag-Macbeth EyeOne. See if you have a mate who works in the graphics industry.
     
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    koma_white

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    Yep, i'm versed in using colour calib spyders as i've set up the majority of an Architectural office before, but never used one on an LCD before! I've been reading around that some of the CRT based ones just don't quite work as well on an LCD... but i'll ask around and see if i can borrow a decent one.
    Anyone in Melbourne reading this want to loan me a spyder for a few hours?
     
  10. Amfibius

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    koma_white I have a Getrag-Macbeth EyeOne which I can lend you. Trouble is, i'm in Torquay. If you really want it, you'll have to pick up and deliver.
     
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    I might just take you up on that offer.
    Motorbike + Torquay = short run to the G.O.R. :D

    I'm going to ask around a few of my mates and see if someone's got one hiding in a drawer at work first though to save the trip. Thanks for the offer. :)
     
  12. LUCY77

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    koma_white,
    What is the firmware of your A02 panel please,
    To access, turn off monitor, Hold the menu and (+) plus button while powering on the monitor (a slight delay), release the buttons, and press (-) minus button. The service menu should be visible at top left hand coner.
    Firmware should state V1B...... someting followed by the SAM samsung panel code.
    Thanks..
     
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  13. chewbucca

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    I just did that on my 2007WFP that I got yesterday and it is A02 also.

    My firmware was: V1B11 LPL WSXGA LM201W01
     
  14. T666

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    :)
    cool review man!

    can you coment on the aspect ratio options available?
    i read that there was no aspect options in 1600x1200 res with A00/A01

    thanks
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  15. Joeblack

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    Good review

    Good review man,
    thanx a lot, I will go for it.
     
  16. Celchu

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    Another thanks for the review. I'll be ordering one up shortly!
     
  17. rainytaxi

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    Just what the doctor ordered

    :thumbup: Just what the doctor ordered.I'm just in the process of getting mine sent - a 2405 as part of order. The possibility of a direct swap for a 2407 from dell rep got me seriously researching for comment and advise. Many thanks Jason. There may well be more follow up questions from a few people. I'll keep my eye on this one.
     
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  18. NoBallsNoGlory

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    So there's no banding only in windows desktop graphic mode? But in games and full screen multimedia apps it's still there? Did the 2405 have this banding prob with games too ?
     
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    MR CHILLED D'oh!

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    I don't think there was a banding problem with the 2405's.....certainly none with mine.
     
  20. NoBallsNoGlory

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    Ok, let me see. Both 24", both 16ms, overall identical panels other than the fact that the 2407 suffers banding problems.


    So besides the 6ms grey-to-grey responce rate of the 2407 the 2405 is a superior product?
     
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