REVIEW der8auer Delid Die Mate cherry popped twice

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  1. headin2001

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    I'm going to play with some pastes soon. Have a good mix of gelid, CLU, Noctua, Enermax and Thermal Grizly. I know with the CLU under my lid I dropped a good 15-18 degrees. I like it under there, but have used NT-H1 and Gelid and found not as good.

    Another day when I'm enthusiastic about it.
     
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    shane41

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    Skylake has the Liquid metal under IHS. Safe there, but Haswell need extra precaution with the under hood VRM section. I'll tackle that later, the silicon bond I've reapplied is easy to remove now.
     
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    You can use you silicon over the resistors Shane, will peel off later if need be and will give the protection. I used LET on mine. Easy done.
     
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    I'd agree on water the CLU FTW for sure, but adding anything cooler and want either Gelid or the Kryonaut for sure.

    Plus with LET you could make a bunch of diff colours for fun or RED to make it go faster.
     
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    Just cover the VRM on Haswell with some clear nail polish from what I have seen.
     
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    But Rob not all us do our nails on a regular basis, like shaving ahem.......
     
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    Optical illusions brah! make things look bigger lol
     
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    touche:lol:
     
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    I see what you both did there.

    #manchild
     
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    Where you buying the LET from? Wan't to try the haswell with the liquid paste
     
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    Jaycar mate.
     
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    Auto One sells DynaGrip brand, $17.80 for a small 118ml tin with brush cap, but it goes a long way and takes a long time to go off in the tin.

    However this stuff is extremely sticky and sets pretty damn hard, so it makes a hell of a mess if you're not careful and I imagine it would be pretty hard to remove without solvent.

    I seem to remember the Jaycar stuff as being more flexible after it cured.
    http://www.jaycar.com.au/p/NM2832
     
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    Silly question, but how do you get a Delid Die Mate 2 shipped to Australia?!?
    The caseking site forces you to choose a country, but it only has European options. Thanks.
     
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    That was done with a shipping agent. But if you can find another reseller,
    that ships to AU...then you'll save the 19% VAT that europeans have to pay.
     
  15. SneakyBastd

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    I've got a Rockit88 on the way, and will delid a 7700K when I get the new parts in a few weeks. Just to make sure I have everything correct....

    I'll need Coolabatory Liquid Ultra from here:
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171224699538?ul_noapp=true
    for covering the die, and the underside of the IHS where the die will press against.
    Do you recommend using it on the top of the IHS also? Is that a no-no because it's conducting, or is it ok?
    The AIO I'm considering has a copper plate. Or should a "normal" paste be used?

    Found cleaning alcohol here, would this be fine?
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10ML-BOT...005196?hash=item212143b14c:g:PjQAAOSwnbZYEHi~

    Thanks in advance. Never de-lidded before so just want to be cautious. Appreciate your help and info, it's really handy. :)
     
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    Use the regular non-conductive paste on top. It's not cost effective for a large surface area to gain a few degree.

    Guys are all in here talking Kabylake
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1212447

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    Isopropyl you can buy from a chemist.
    My electrical store does like a hobby " tandy's section " in there Chemtools Brand. 250ml $8.95
     
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    I have liquid tape from Jaycar, but not a tin.

    I have a tube, like THIS.


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    Don't use it if you are pregnant ;)


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    My local Jaycar is listing black and red right now, but mine is clear.
    It dries to a thin film, which can be just peeled away with a fingernail. Obviously a second or third layer would make it thicker.

    Personally I'm dubious as to how it will handle heat, and what will happen when liquid metal touches it, so although I bought it for delidding, I've never actually used it for the job.

    Interesting to see it recommended, I might use it now :lol:

    I've never used Isopropyl Alcohol for anything. Metho works just fine, at 20% of the price.
     
  18. SneakyBastd

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    De-lid complete! Short version: about 19-20C drop in temps. :>

    7700K @ 5ghz 1.344v, LLC6. AVX offset is 4. Fractal Kelvin S36. CLU on die, NT-H1 on IHS.

    I let the silicone cure overnight, and put it back in this morning. A quick 30 minute RealBench maxed the cores at 66/66/65/65C. It used to be 84/86/85/86. So I'm pretty happy, but mostly just relieved it's all done and I didn't brick anything lol.

    Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I would not have been brave enough to attempt this without this great info!

    Now that it's running cool I'll leave it on overnight runs to test for proper stability and then bring the AVX/cache up, etc. Then try for 5.1ghz. Let you know.
     

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