Doom Record Run

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  1. Tinian

    Tinian Member

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    20 year old Doom speed run broken. Eight (8) seconds for the first level of Doom (Hangar).

    Took over 50,000 attempts over a year. FF to 16min 40sec if you just want to watch the run. The video itself goes into excruciating detail about how difficult this was.

     
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  2. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    This sort of thing feels rife for AI to have a crack at it.
     
  3. Lazlo999

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    As a kid growing up in the 90's this was all i did! Doom Jazz Jack Rabbit Wolfenstien 3D and Raiden!



    Clip of just the run.

    Also heres a list of the speed runs for anyone else interested.
    https://www.speedrun.com/doom1/E1M1Hangar#UV-Speed

    another fellow aussie in at 34th!

    Heres the 22 year old record run aswell.
     
  4. iMomOx3

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    There's so much more but damn you forgot Duke Nukem!
     
  5. Lazlo999

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    Ahh yes! That one came a little later on for me, That was around the time i was getting into carmegedon and revolt. no shit that game actually game me nightmares :S
     
  6. Jumpingmanjim

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    Why does he back up when he opens the door? Is that necessary to get the door to open?
     
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    It's covered in the video, but in Doom it's important to keep moving as it's faster than starting from a standstill once he can get through the door. By backing up you're effectively running through at maximum pace if you can time it correctly.
     
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    Ah ok that makes sense.

    I mean in the real world it doesn't make sense, but I suppose in Doom it does.
     
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    The security swipey sliding gate things at work require me to back up or they beep - I only speedrun on the way out though.

    This is pretty impressive but 50K attempts! That's nuts.
     
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  10. Jumpingmanjim

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    Yeah and I thought the guy speedrunning the first level of Goldeneye was crazy.
     
  11. Lazlo999

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    LOL! I thought that was pretty obvious...NOBODY SPEED RUNS TO WORK!
     
  12. Hater

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    I'm more surprised the guy even had footage of his run from 22 years ago
     
  13. Lazlo999

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    you have a good point. what did he use to screen cap it?
     
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    Can't help thinking there are better things to do in life than this, fifty thousand times
     
  15. mAJORD

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    you record speedruns as demo files.

    footage of old speedruns would therefore been made by just just playing back the demo file and capping it
     
  16. Lazlo999

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    so like a ghost in current games?
     
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    I'm pretty sure there was a period where this was the exact set of games I was playing also, except for Raiden - I'd sub that with mabye Dune 2 at the time. Good old Jackrabbit though.. so much green!

    not sure what you mean there, but coming back to this..
    I think given the simplicity of the game, AI wouldn't be necessary. you could probably craft the perfect speedrun directly - i.e manipulating the Demo file. That would of course be cheating - but interesting in its own right (a bit like robot mucicians).

    There's literally no variables at play afaik. including the enemy's movements.
     
  18. oculi

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    Perhaps you should watch the video.

    I've never really been into speedruns , trying to get gold medals in burnout 3 was probably as closes as I got, where you steer based on feel rather than what you can see and hope no NPCs (non player cars) are in the way, but every run in a racing game is a speedrun in a way.
     
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  19. Lazlo999

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    Now you mention it yes alot of green and that explains why his eyes were always bloodshot... I was just a kid when playing this so i never noticed but i've confirmed this with evidence.
    [​IMG]

    as for the ghost i'm talking about games for example racing games that you get a ghost to follow your previous line to improve so on. or am i way off?
     
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    oh man Jazz Jackrabbit, so good.

    I remember having a 486 in the 90's and not having a SNES or Megadrive. Instead of Sonic/Mario Kart I had Jazz Jackrabbit and Wacky Wheels.
     
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