Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by Deja Vu, May 14, 2009.
dunno if this has been posted yet, couldn't find any threads on it
These guys have sued so many people..
finally caught up
Load of bollocks, Intel are appealing and I'm fairly sure will win.
Most of their case is due to the fact Intel have bulk buy prices. PROBLEM? Looks like the local pet food supplier is about to be sued.
ok am being lazy now, why exactly did they get sued??
Might want to do a little more research than simply paste a statement. As has been clearly discussed people are trying to turn "cheaper prices for bulk purchases" into "paid illegal rebates" - which it is clearly not.
I feel safe in assuming the OTHER 2 statements in what I just quoted aren't just fabricated so I'll ignore you.
No they won't win. The EU doesn't muck around. They made Microsoft release a special version of windows without media player (Windows - N). You can buy this version in every EU country.
MS also will give you the option to remove IE from Windows 7 and W7 doesn't come with many applications any more. You will need to download them through live essentials.
Intel has hurt many companies like AMD and VIA with their licensing deals. Intel is a mean player and Saturn chain is massive in europe. The fine is nothing more than a speeding ticket.
The EU will enforce this fine, no doubt about that. Microsoft also tried to stall this, but the europeans don't muck around or back down like many others...
Bulk pricing is not the issue. The issue is that Intel aproached large customers and gave them special incentives if they didn't sell any AMD products. That's the main issue here. And of course there is proof and paperwork and witnesses... This case started in 2001. Its not something someone made up...
Indeed, especially when it comes to big American companies.
Yea. It's really a EU vs. USA political game...
A clever spin by Intel's lawyers for sure.
The discounts weren't for large volumes. They were given under the condition of not using competitor's products, combined with the threat of withholding information about upcoming products for not taking the deal.
And with OEM's working under such narrow margins, they couldn't not take the deals if they wanted to stay competitive against the other OEM's.
Haha, no, you're confusing a statement from Intel's CEO, DENYING the allegations and stating they only offer bulk pricing, and that theres " no such dodgy deals" Do you expect the CEO to admit to this?
You think the EU has a problem with bulk pricing?
Leave it to the courts.. For the moment they're guilty, if they provide evidence they're innocent, so be it.
AMD is also a US company.
I don't think its a political game at all.
How is that relevant? AMD isn't behaving the way Intel is.
The point is that the EU is reminding big American companies that they can get away with breaking the law in America, but not in the EU.
For fuck sake are people really that stupid to ignore the truth because of their fanboism?
Intel monopolized the market for years trying to eliminate the competition, and that's obvious.
I'm sure you would all LOVE to be paying $1500 for a Core i7 920
lol wut? why? since when arent company's allowed to package their own software with their product?
Because it could violate certain restrictions (ie: Internet Explorer being stuck to Windows never able to remove it etc.) effectively reducing competition.
Because he way the OS is set up, you need certain applications given in the os to run them. Third party apps can do these tasks, but the os demands that this certain app is installed etc...
IE7 and Windows media player are big examples of this. While its not a big deal to most, it can be seen as an attempt to monopolise the market by forcing people to use certain applications to get their operating system to run.
just like how u need to use itunes to use an ipod? To me Apple does this more than windows....but this thread isnt about that