Falcon 9 / Dragon

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  1. A_C

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  2. MUTMAN

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    11 years later, still amazballs....
    but whats around the corner is epic

     
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    Official Starship SN15 Flight Test 1m Recap - new footage.

     
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    Flight details for the first Starship orbital flight
    https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=273481&x=

    In short:
    No NET yet.
    Full stack launching from Boca Chica, with Starship attempting a precision soft water landing near Hawaii without completing a full orbit.
    Superheavy to attempt to 'land' in the Gulf of Mexico. It's not clear whether that will be a soft landing on water too or on some sort of platform but the wording seems to imply it'll be on a platform.

    I guess it's plausible Phobos/Deimos could have a simple landing deck ready in the not too distant future.
     
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    There's a few interesting things here. Looks like they're going for starlink as the primary telemetry downlink for the upper stage, which perhaps isnt surprising. Ground stations for the booster, which implies they're planning on keeping on using their bermuda ground station for the indefinite future, I'd wondered if they'd save costs by getting rid of it.

    Boost-back landing for the booster on the first test, not going for the potentially lower risk coast-only-and-land-way-off-shore like really heavy falcon9 missions: raises the question of whether this is going to be a fully mobile landing platform, or something semi-submersible or larger, which they can operate that close to shore.

    They're really going for every bit of a complete orbit they can manage whilst not having risky parts over population, but whilst still having everything close enough to shore stations for support. I wonder what support ships they're planning on moving to hawaii, or if they're going to lease some temporarily
     
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    But unlike Blue Origin, SpaceX doesn't rely on government money to keep developing Starship...
    Congress controlled NASA budgets are such a shit-show, and the SLS is such a long drawn out bloated money sink... that uses old technology and isn't even re-usable.

    Thank the stars for profitable private space enterprise that actually develop new and reusable technology advancements.
     
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    Time for some new footage and an amazing recap!


     
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    SpaceX have completed their 28th operational Starlink mission featuring a new 5th flight reuse record for the fairing halves and 85th successful first-stage landing of the Falcon 9.
    This mission will mark the completion of the first Starlink shell.



    The 28th operational Starlink mission boosts the total number of Starlink satellites launched to 1,737, of which 1,666 will still be in orbit around the Earth once launched. All of the satellites should be in their final orbits by the end of the year. Starlink is SpaceX’s internet communication satellite constellation. The Low-Earth orbit constellation will deliver fast, low-latency internet service to locations where ground-based internet is unreliable, unavailable, or expensive. The first phase of the constellation consists of 5 orbital shells.

    After 28 launches SpaceX will achieve global coverage, but the constellation will not be complete until ~42,000 satellites are in orbit. Given SpaceX’s current Starlink production and launch rate, Starlink will have global coverage, excluding the poles, by the middle of 2021. Once Starlink is complete, the venture is expected to profit $30-50 billion annually. This profit will largely finance SpaceX’s ambitious Starship program, as well as Mars Base Alpha.
     
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    is this Elon speak or actual real numbers ?
     
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    Well expected numbers doesn't equal real numbers - by definition, but those are SpaceX figures.

    Forbes recently predicted Starlink to generate at least $10.4 billion USD in revenue by 2025:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2021/04/16/is-spacex-really-worth-74-billion/

    Starlink Valuation: What Could SpaceX's Starlink Service Be Worth?
    https://dashboards.trefis.com/no-lo...e-Be-Worth-?fromforbesandarticle=trefis210416

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    a return ticket to mars, according to a musk interview, will cost you half a million usd.

    space tourism. (don't forget to pack your lunch)
     
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    thanks. I was thinking it seemed a little OTT and a bit too much Elon numbers.

    the costs to build and launch are well established now.
    I guess it's all just down to the number of subscribers....
     
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    Speaking of OTT.... SN20 is coming up soon, this is just nuts...

     
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    SpaceX has filed for 6 FCC permits for launch and landing communications with Falcon 9 rockets launching Starlink satellites from Vandenberg. These 6 permits suggest up to 6 Starlink launches coming up from Vandenberg starting this July.

    August will likely be the earliest launch.
     
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    Yah, whatevs, i just swipe the notifications away these days, "SpaceX launch moar rocket", big fuckin' deal.

    :)

    Edit: Not even kidding.
     
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    Spacex have upped their camera game, Nice captured footage of the daylight sea deck landing of the first stage from the latest Falcon 9 launch:



    Landing burn starts at 28m. Remember, this first stage rocket is 12 storeys tall. :wired:
     
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    Possible new raptor testing facility going in on a rifle range spacex have just bought not far away from boca chica... You'd assume they'll continue to use macgregor, but it'd be a serious boon speed of turnaround wise to have some horizontal test stands just near starbase you'd imagine
     
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    Nice footage of Falcon 9 first-stage rocket smoooooth reentry and landing back on land near the launchpad, on their latest Transporter-2 mission earlier today:

    (note the vehicles and buildings near the landing pad for scale of the 12 storey high vehicle)

     
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    One hell of a cherry picker at the 11 minute mark :leet:
     
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