Falcon 9 / Dragon

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  1. MUTMAN

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    that's one big cherry tree they got there
     
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    The TMS tiles definitely make it look even more futuristic and incredible.
    Not long now lads and lasses. :)
     
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    I guess we'll know when the FAA puts the environmental approval out for its thirty days of public comment. Seems fairly unlikely it's going to be spacex holding it up at this point, even though yonder stacked rocket was far from finished
     
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    Tim's part 3 video is up:
     
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    Yeah, possibly getting a wee bit overexcited there. :)
    Mr Manley (among others) pointed out that several of the engines have clearly not been test-fired, so they're coming back off now that the integration test-fit has been done.



    Re. FAA approvals, I'm sure I read that the applications for flight corridor diversions/exclusion zone were sent in months ago, so I guess it's just the public review period remaining?
    Saw a comment elsewhere suggesting that the other Big Players might potentially try and play Silly Buggers via FAA lobbying, but I don't think anyone is seriously concerned about this given the obviousness of intent behind such tactics.

    Thanks for the continued updates mate. :thumbup:
     
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  6. Quadbox

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    I dont really see why Tony Bruno would get involved in approval for a space launch complex they've got no involvement in frankly. Bezos might be that much of a **** but for all ULA's faults Tony Bruno is a professional not an egotistical twit
     
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    Oh I completely agree, just commenting on some speculation that I read about.
    I've been a big fan of ULA for their faultless launch record (you get what you pay for I guess?), and of Mr Bruno personally since Destin's "Smarter Every Day" BTS tour video which showed just how much of a real "rocket guy" he is.

    I found the speculation briefly interesting since several of the traditional contractors most certainly have some go-to ears within FAA, relationships built up over a very long time, and recent actions indicate that Blue Origin in particular is not afraid of "sore loser" tactics such as lobbying and legal action, even if they don't have a finger in the FAA's pie the way that Boeing/Lockheed/Northrop-Grumman do.
    But yeah, I can't see it happening. Whatever else might be said about SpaceX, they have a very good record re. the administrative/regulatory side of their business as far as I can recall, so I think the FAA would have some difficulty showing any good reason to restrict their operations (barring some major outcry on the environmental front, which I've heard nothing about so far).
     
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    i'd like to see a manned mission to mars.

    or all this is just a stupendously expensive hobby. actually. I think that's all it is really. it is still interesting anyway.

    is there anything worth mining on mars?

    there is some water present in the icecap. apart from that, and i assume minerals,....it is a barren dusty rock. a very thin co2 atmosphere. and low level harmful? radiation? no magnetosphere.
     
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    I'm not sure either. but, first you have to crawl in order to learn to walk.
    so I figure Mars is close and survivable. noone is going to cry if we put nuke generation on Mars and turn it into something workable
     
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    Personally I'm less concerned about space commerce/production, and more interested in scientific exploration/investigation aimed at finding the telltale signs of alien life which simply must exist out there somewhere.
    This is SpaceX's most valuable contribution IMHO... making such exploration more affordable and paving the way for many more nations to put their scientific talents to use in finding The Big Game Changer.
     
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    Yet more tantalising twitter tidbits from Elon (it's animated if you click through to the tweet, amazing animation work from whomever @ErcXspace is):

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    F9/Dragon launch happening in just under 20 minutes, fuelling almost complete.
    Hopefully it isn't another scrub since I always seem to be asleep or otherwise occupied whenever they do actually go up!



    SpaceX channel stream here:
     
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    watching...that's nuts :thumbup:
     
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    Yeah it looked cool going up through the cloud deck eh.
    Always love watching the acceleration of the speed figures and the exhaust plume transitioning to overexpanded as it passes through 50km. :D


    Stuck the landing for the 90th time... it never gets old, although the video feed was a bit ragged this time.
    aaaand good separation too. Well done yet again SpaceX. :)

    I posted some NASA blog links with info on the various science and tech experiments that went up over in the General Space Exploration thread.
     
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    Autodock Engaged.

     
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  16. Quadbox

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    Elon's answered a question I'd been asking myself about the mechzilla grabby arms that're going to pluck the superheavy booster out of the sky: the arms are going to have tank-like tracks on top to manipulate the booster around on the arms. Makes sense, would let you rotate it and move it in and out pretty effectively

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1432277312695832580
     
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    I had the same thought in my mind also. What if the booster needed to rotate 10 degrees after it was caught? Or it landed further or closer from the tower (but still on the arms) ?
     
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    Yeah exactly, it answers that question
     
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    Inspiration4 | Launch

    Inspiration4 mission – the world’s first all-civilian human spaceflight to orbit – aboard SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon spacecraft modified with a viewing dome at the front instead of a docking port.
    After approx. 3 days of orbiting at 575+ km (the furthest humans from Earth since the Apollo program), Dragon and the Inspiration4 crew will splash down at one of several possible landing sites off the Florida coast.



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    Inspiration4 is commanded by Jared Isaacman, founder and CEO of Shift4 Payments and an accomplished pilot and adventurer. Joining him are Medical Officer Hayley Arceneaux, a physician assistant at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital and pediatric cancer survivor; Mission Specialist Chris Sembroski, an Air Force veteran and aerospace data engineer; and Mission Pilot Dr. Sian Proctor, a geoscientist, entrepreneur, and trained pilot.
     
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