EDIT: Rumours of a release date are flying about... 23rd October, to coincide with the "pre-birthday" of the apocalypse?? Video from Gopher (respected long-term mod creator and youtuber) has more: I guess we'll know more after E3. Something about Bethesda games brings out the entitled internet goon squad in full force. I mean, so does every major AAA release, but it seems especially prevalent with Bethesda titles. There's a total disconnect between what these people want and how much time, effort and creativity and complexity goes into creating these massive open worlds. Seriously, I just checked my Steamapps folder... FO3 GOTY is just shy of 9GB without mods. FNV is 6.75 (no dlc or mods). Skyrim is fucking 15.7GB (all DLC but no mods). That is a ridiculous arseload of graphical assets, hundreds of hours of dialog, countless man-hours of scripting for quests and NPCs. To say nothing of porting it all across three platforms, and playtesting, and bugfixing. And yet... " I saw a tree clip through a building, the devs should all be fucking shot!!1!!eleven". Yes, there will be bugs. Yes, the more glaring and game-breaking ones will be patched. Don't preorder or buy on day one so you can yell FIRST! like an arsehole (along with millions of other arseholes), wait a month or two and it will be sweet. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never had a problem with their Gamebryo games if bought via Steam. Download, run, no problems. Only time I had issues was with my original disc copy of FO3, and that was due to GFWL (shudder). The game itself ran fine. I still apply all the usual .ini tweaks, unofficial patches and performance tweaks of course, for long-term stability and smoothness. Having Windows patched up and all drivers up to date goes without saying of course. Also see above re. waiting a couple of months for major bugs to be patched out. I'm happy to let other people be the live release playtesters and discover all the awesome new ways they can make their game crash. I don't need to be first in line. To be honest though, I think most people that whinge online about CTDs on startup or in-game crashes are probably trying to run the game on a five year old laptop with 2 gig of RAM and shitty integrated graphics... the very definition of "Minimum Specs". Or they're trying to run mods without having a clue what they're doing. EDIT2: Sorry for wall of text... again. I just enjoy talking shit on the internet, it's a hard habit to break.