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Discussion in 'Hobby Engineering' started by tumutbound, Jan 14, 2022.

  1. tumutbound

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    I've done a quick, possibly faulty, search for this topic but didn't get any hits.

    I want to build a hot/dry box (either will do) for holding a single reel of filament - don't have the space for a bigger box and multiple reels.
    I can find lots of 'how to' videos but the ones for single filament are using containers I can't find here.
    I've been through KMart and BigW looking at sealable containers they sell but nothing the right size. Closest are cereal storage ones, right shape and dimensions but they all have an indented section at the back for a handle which makes them unsuitable.
    If anyone can point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated.

    Looking more towards a dry box at thsi stage (just desiccant) rather than a heated one.
    I don't have the facilities to make one from, say, acrylic sheet.

    I have ordered some of these containers from Cubic but something to leave the filaments in while printing is preferred
     
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    Bunnings have IP rated waterproof boxes that I know people use for filament storage. Just chuck some desiccant in the bottom. And drill a small hole somewhere for the filament to route out.
     
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    The only IP rated ones I can see at Bunnings are too big, minumum they have is 18 litre, nearly 300mm cube. Size needed is (about) 220x220x100.
     
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    Yeah, righto, sorry, the folks in the Voron Aus discord channel just live with the larger size, even for a single spool.
     
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    That's the right size but I'd have to work out how to use it with the smallest dimension down i.e. on it's side.
    I can only have one container and it really needs to be with a vertical oriantation - this one looks OK. Enough height to allow for some rollers under the reel.

    I can multiple of these and store them in a cupboard and bring them out when needed but wher the printer(s) are, just no room.
     
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    I ended up getting a tub from Bunnings, putting foam tape around the lid, and making rollers for the 4 rolls that fit (along with feed holes with some bowden fittings and old bowden tube). I know you're looking for smaller, surely there's something out there. Think theres an IKEA one that's popular. The one you've linked could work. Take an empty spool with you and double check.

    As for storage away from the drybox, I've got mine in vacuum bags with a dessicant packet, inside Celebrations tubs (the chocolates). Perfect fit for my eSun spools. A Sunlu Filadryer is handy for sorting out misbehaving filament due to moisture too. Fairly cheap and would probably suit your needs.
     
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    I remembered to take an empty reel to BigW today! No Ikea in Tassie and minimum freight is $39.

    I've got a dehumidifier that does a pretty good job of drying filament although it needs to be hotter so I've ordered a PID controller for it.
    As I mentioned, I've ordered some storage container from Cubic, silca gel has been ordered. I also have a vacuum sealer (for sous vide cooking) and that will do the job for long term storage if needed, just need to order some larger bags.

    EDIT: I have found what looks like a suitable candidate at Ikea - depends how much of a taper from top top bottom and size at base. Shipping is cheaper than last time I checked but still $30 to southern Tassie
     
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    are you handy on the tools ??

    perhaps make a vacuum chamber

     
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    search on ebay, there is a heap of generics based of the sunlu heated box for $90 with free postage, i got the Sovol filament dryer box, mini review/guide to filament storage options, inculding DIY on all3dp.com.

     
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    This works for us but with well over 100 spools this is a job unto itself. All from Bunno's containers inserts and moister absorber. We now get the later off amazon in bulk.
    A couple of companion sunlu dryers for those rolls we forget to put away. We change the absorber every couple of weeks but that will stop as the weather warms and drys.


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    Thanks for all the suggestions so far.
    This is literally all the space I have to work in, This is the lounge room, it's a 1 bedroom unit so limited storage space.
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    Enough (just) space for a single reel dry box.
    I have room in the wardrobe to store filament in these containers - off -line storage if you like :)
    It might be possible to add a shelf to the wall but the landlord might not agree, plus it would be quite high off the ground, top of the Hevort printer is at 1900mm. I'll probably keep the Ender 5 when the Hevort is completed. Grey cupboard to the right of the tool chest is full of unopened filament.
     
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    I've bought some of these for vacuum storage plus I have a food vacuum sealer and large enough bags to seal filament long term if required.
    I used to do some fabrication but got rid of the tools when I downsized a couple of years ago :mad:
     
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    After the Lotto win perhaps :)
    That's a great set-up.
     
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    120 bucks each, what the fuck >?

    i'm sure the one in the video could be made for much less :/ and probably a lot stronger as well. and able to be scaled to whatever size you wanted.
     
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    It's a $120 for 5 (plus the hand pump)

    These Sistema ones (posted earlier by kbekus) would be great if I could source a suiltable valve to install in the top. These sort of valves are good but only for plastic bags.
     
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    That's a sexy setup ! how small does the 5 look next to the Hev :shock:
     
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    Printdry containers arrived today!
    They seem well made out of polycarbonate, apparently the early ones were a lot more flexible material and prone to collapse.
    Hand pump works well enough to give the necessary vacuum.
    IMG_20220120_140020.jpg

    I also received a PID controller so now I have to modify the de-humidifier
    EDIT: Not the PID controller but a 1Kg bag of silica gel.
     
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    I find the choice of barrier material a bit suspect, PC is pretty permeable.
     
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    Received the PID controller today so started to gut the de-dehydrator. Need to get a case for the PID before I can go much further (road trip to Jaycar tomorrow)
    Currently it has a thermostat and a thermal fuse. The fuse will stay but the thermostat will need to be disabled.
    Clamied power is 250W,
    IMG_20220124_175355.jpg
     
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