Formd T1 ITX Water-cooling Adventures

Discussion in 'PC Build Logs' started by AdamMB23, Sep 29, 2020.

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Should i sleeve my custom 24-pin cable?

Poll closed Dec 3, 2020.
  1. Black sleeve

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  1. Yuddy

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    Very nice and clean build mate. Ordered my T1 as well so looking into pump / res options. I have a aorus 2080ti with EK waterblock but it is much longer and taller than FE cards and blocks. Do you mind if I get some clearance measurements from you?

    How'd you go fitting the DDC pump and magic-cube?
     
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    Thanks! Feel free to send me a pm with any clearance concerns (dont want to clutter the log). Ill do my best to help :)

    Had to put my build on pause for a bit due to uni exams - but the ddc should be in my sunday so will let you all know!
     
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    So i sleeved the 24 pin. I think it turned out alright. There are a few ones that are not quite the right size. It powered on an old system without exploding so thats a positive. But its far too bulky, the sleeving makes it very difficult to fit the tube comfortably across the front and the tension in the cable is making me uneasy...

    I will be making a non-sleeved one soon and seeing how that fits.

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  4. h2oxide

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    Looking clean
     
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  5. evade

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    Neat job with the cables man, I found the same thing - It took FOREVER to make, and then was just bulky and not flexible at all..so I ended up not using it..Lesson learnt!

    Coming along well
     
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    Bye bye bulky, rigid cables. Hello sleek, flexible and super easy to make unsleeved cables. I am way happier with how the unsleeved cables turned out - sizes are more accurate, easily malleable and pretty subtle in my opinion. Bonus - less burnt fingertips. Also managed to fit in my DDC pump - EK 3.2 PWM with MagicCube. Any ideas on what to do with these ugly molex/3-pin?

    Also - stupidly tried to remove my GPU without undoing the white-plastic clip on the riser and it snapped. Anyone know where to source another one of these clips??

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  7. evade

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    You can rewire the molex into the 4pin fan connector..as long as your mobo header can pump out enough juice.
     
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    Great idea - have absolutely no idea how to do that but i am sure reddit has some useful information. Cheers

    edit: quick google, x570i strix only puts on 1A/12W per fan header. Reddit says 2A/24W is typically needed. Bit of a buzz kill
     
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    Did you shorten your stock cables or make them from scratch?

    I need to make my custom cables and would love to keep them sleeved haha
     
  10. irR4tiOn4L

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    Looks great! How are the temps? Have you considered a 2 x 240mm rad build?
     
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    Made my own. They cables are 16awg for single, and 18awg for double wires crimped to 16awg female terminals. Sleeving is definitely possible, but it is more feasible in a soft-line build. Id also look for more malleable sleeving, maybe paracord? Not sure - but definitely doable and not as difficult as its made out to be. Shortening stock cables is also a good idea, save a lot of effort.

    Yet to really get this going! Briefly had it running with a DCLT setup but pump noise was annoying so trying ddc. I have considered 2x240, even have all the equipment for it, but really dont want to swap out my magnitude block for the aquanaut. Maybe if i got a 3080. But in saying, 120 rad is on the cards and fits nicely...

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    Another update: After a brief interlude, I finally managed to get it to a workable state. Here is an abridged version of my recent efforts:

    - Sleeving of the EK 3.2 PWM molex / 4-pin cable. Unfortunately my motherboard (Strix x470i) does not pump out enough juice from the fan headers to run the DDC off the fan header alone. This means I had to create adjust a molex cable off another PSU, and re-pin the other end to fit a 6-pin. Also means that i have a lot of extra cables (30-40cm) worth that i have had to tuck above the pump. Its not the prettiest, but its the most practical solution currently.
    - Installation of the DDC pump means I had to re-route my DDC to GPU Run. The height off-set between the DDC and GPU made for an unattractive angle. My solution was to slightly angle a few rotary 90 fittings coming off the GPU block until it was straight with the DDC pump. Shown below in photos.
    - Saw a reddit post about NF-A12x25 fans being feasible with the TX240. So I went out to centrecom, bought two functional but ugly af poo-brown NF-A12x25 fans and began sanding away. Strange thing to immediately do to $150 worth of fans, but was too impatient for the second hand market. Sanded around 3-4mm off the intake side, and around <1mm off the exhaust side. Also removed the radiator mounting equipment, netting me another 1mm clearance. The fans now sit at around 21mm, in a 20mm space. This leaves a minute buldge that is easier felt than observed. These fans are near silent up to 1300-1500rpm, which makes them more preferable to the NF-A12x15 Chromax that i originally installed. Temps are comparable, but overall, I prefer the NF-A12x25. More in-depth testing to come when i have finished moving houses.
    - Had to re-do the CPU to RAD run, as the DDC pump means the Tx240 has to be tucked right up against the edge in order to fit.
    - Ordered an EK-Classic backplate to fit on to my 2080ti. Vector backplate overhangs by around 3-4mm, occupying too much space for the DDC pump to fit.
    - Managed to break my DC-LT2600 pump without ever using it! Just goes to show how great alphacool products truly are (2 eisstations down, 2 pumps down = never touching alphacool again. Same basket as Gigashit for GPUs).
    - Bleeding the loop is a pain, recommend using a large reservoir and letting it run for awhile. Also recommend using a soft tube with ball-valve coming off an extender so you can rotate the case easier without spilling water out of the reservoir (unless you have a lid).
    - Also recommend not forgetting to fit the temp sensor into the loop.

    BASIC Temps: (5600x @ stock, 2080ti undervolted to .950mV for ~2055 Mhz, Side + top panels ON, Pump locked to 1300rpm, Fan around 1300-1500 rpm. Ambient 25c+)
    - After a few hours of Warzone, Cyberpunk, 3D mark and Heaven, the CPU settled at around:
    - 2x NFA-12x15 = CPU 70, GPU 55-60.
    - 2x NFA-12x25 = CPU 65, GPU 55-60.

    Things to do:
    - Add in the white texture fluid from EK.
    - Add in Temperature Sensor
    - Figure out if the GPU is just coil-whining, weird buzzing sound under GPU load.
    - Try and fit in a TX120 infront of the GPU.

    Sorry about the photos, im not a photographer and its very dark in my house. My s10 is struggling.

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  13. Yuddy

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    Very nice mate. I ended cancelling my T1 order as they have troubles with aluminium suppliers and said a V2 is coming shortly with support for longer and taller GPUs . So I guess I'll have to wait til then.

    But loving your work mate.
     
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    This looks incredible. Awesome build mate! Following for more progress updates.
     
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    That is unfortunate - sounds like they really ran into a brick wall. Hopefully T1 V.2 is worth the wait though - the adjustable bracket sounds quite attractive.

    Cheers mate! Keen to try and fit another rad in there somehow!
     
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    Want the power of Noctua NF-A12x25 but not the poo brown colour? Fear no more - introducing my not-so Chromax NF-A12x25s with their sleek poorly spray painted design.

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    So last night my GPU started hitting 90c, my CPU 88c. A very quick trouble shoot and it appears my pump has died. Ek 3.2 pwm only lasting 3 months on ek cryofuel. Very dissapointed. Now to start the warranty process whilst my T1 idles...
     
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    Wow that's short.. hope mines not the same
     
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    That sucks, what speed were you running at? I’ve heard they overheat and can die..
     
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    It was running at ~ 1500rpm i believe. Coolant temp was 23 above ambient at around 46 when i last measured it properly. Not really sure why it died but not overly impressed.
     
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