Golden age of PC Gaming

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  1. okclock123

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    Another thing that kills interest in games in the past 2 decades for me: hordes of samey oponents: zombies, infected, draugs , biomodified, walking dead, clickers, bioengineered etc. Basically an ape-human bodybuilder with claws wearing a scary mask.
     
  2. romanx

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    Yeah good point, it's different from COD3: SSDD, COD4: SSDD, COD5: SSDD, COD6: We're still making these? COD7: people are still buying it.

    I still have the original 1 & 2 in box, I installed them last year to play. It's been that bloody long I wondered why I couldn't get it to work, and forgot you needed the CD in the tray while you played.
     
  3. romanx

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    You just described my ex-girlfriend.

    Yeah, that's what has killed it for me too. It's the same shit just upcycled. Nothing seems to be overly original or immersive, or have a good story line for a single player game. I think Dishonoured was the only thing I've played in the last few years that's felt a bit different, the maritime/steam punk theme veered away a tad and I got into it. The last 15 years I haven't gamed all that much, it's usually just a single player on a weekend every now and then, or continue to do bits of Skyrim when I feel like it.
     
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    That reminds me I need to put some time into Biohazard/RE: Code Veronica. I have only played 20 minutes when I got it a few years ago. Err only about 80 hours of game play left.
     
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    Well if you haven't played much in the last 15 years how do you know???
     
  6. okclock123

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    Roasted :)!

    Actually liked both Dishonored and Skyrim. Especially world-building, design and exploration. Both still had almost-zombie "weepers" and "draugs" which both do that shtick with moaning and grumbling and charging at you mindlessly, but at least weepers were not the main thing. Draugs although full-on zombies also were not the main thing, had significant variety in designs, wielded weapons and had different atacks. As far as I remember there were some draugs with personality too.

    I still think both these games would be infinitely better without "almost-dead-risen-from-the-grave-moaning-groaning-semi-mindless enemies with kind-of hive mind" or "ex humans modified to eat flesh and/or be weapons" like in other games.

    It all started in late 90s with Doom, Quake, System Shock, Sin, Half-Life, Halo etc and it was fun for a while. But then this thing just went out of control. Games which I really really loved in the beginning but introduced kind-of-zombies in later stages include: Far Cry 1, Uncharted 1, Mass Effect 2, Bioshock 1 (in the beginning though). I thought it was so unfair to give you a promise of an interesting world and a story and then slap "totally not-zombies" in your face.

    A few names from the top of my head which are totally not zombies: trigen, husk, swarm, mutant, chimaera, reaver, mutated cyborg, slasher, leaper, lurker, alien slave, splicer.
     
  7. simontifik

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    Geez you guys are a bunch of curmudgeons!

    There’s never been a better time to play video games. Video games have never been so diverse, cheap and accessible. You can play on phones, handhelds, hybrids like the Switch, multiple tiers of console, PC, VR. You can play old games through emulation, remakes, remasters, backwards compatibility. Big budget games beat movie opening weekends, indie studios are bringing back and iterating on old genres and ideas. You can connect to millions of other players around the world with ease.

    I’m lying in bed playing Stardew Valley on my handheld console that docks to my TV. It’s a game singlehandedly made by one man that pays homage and builds on an old Super Nintendo game. It recently was updated to patch in online co op so I can play with anyone across the globe.

    If that’s not awesome you can piss off and probably buy every one of those 90s/2000s PC games in the OPs image on GOG and Steam.
     
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  8. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    You know what actually excites me for reals? Checking this twitter hashtag:
    https://twitter.com/search?q=#screenshotsaturday

    Loads of indie devs posting shots of their projects. So much new and interesting stuff from small and one-person teams for a huge variety of platforms. I'm pretty sure 80% of my new game purchases come just from me getting hyped from those.
     
  9. Grant

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    I'm in the camp of "things are great now, there's a lot more noise, but now is a superset of the past".

    One thing I'd point out is the screenshot on the PC is Counter-Strike 1.6. CS:GO has been around for almost long enough to make it retro itself (and the game has been almost entirely remade in-place at this point), and has a thriving community and esports scene. That scene may be small relative to the current world of gaming, but it's physically larger than it's ever been.
     
  10. elvis

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    My original post was, admittedly, very subjective. Objectively, there's clearly more video games out than ever. My original post was about the "feel" of it all (which is a crappy term, I admit).

    And again, I admit to nostalgia and age being a big part of it. But I felt like, back then, when a game came out, you got hyped for it, and did so for a high percentage of game announcements. Versus today where I care about maybe 5% of what's out there.

    With that said - maybe that's a good thing? Clearly more people are playing games than ever, so the variance of what games offer should be wider too. I haven't enjoyed an FPS in close to 20 years because they all feel samey and boring to me, but perhaps that's OK. Perhaps I'm just not that market any more, and the enormous population who are are perfectly happy with it. Ditto for any other genre you'd care to mention that I don't like, but has an audience of millions (whether that's core gamer PC master race stuff, or casual mobile stuff, or anything in between).

    As I've alluded to a few times in this thread, I love indie stuff. Mostly because it captures that "small, interesting, unique" feeling I love about games (and art in general), compared to highly polished, highly commercialised titles. But again, their existence doesn't take away from the indie scene, and doesn't limit my choices.

    I think the biggest shift for me, personally, was changing from being a kid interested in "every video game" to being an adult who is only interested in a small chunk of the market. But honestly, could you even play "every video game" these days? I think you'd need ten lifetimes to do that now. And that's kind of cool in itself.
     
  11. Arctic_Silver08

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    Bang on, I used to be into a shitload of games as a kid but I think I've just outgrown it all.
    These days I just play Dota which in effect, is just a more detailed version of chess.

    Games that are overly complex or take time to learn I just don't have the patience for any more. I get bored.
     
  12. elvis

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    Sadly I don't have time to get bored - I'm just too time poor to sink hours into games.

    In fact, I laugh every time I see someone whine about a game being too short, complaining "there's only 30 hours of gameplay here". Man, 30 hours of gameplay takes me 15-30 weeks lately.

    I can't wait for retirement. My gaming backlog "pile of shame" is ready and waiting!
     
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    Much... because I give trials a bash and find it's the same boring sh*t. Has COD changed much in 20 years?
     
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    Your barometer is cod???
     
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    I think this is the big one for most of us as we get older. Christ I am single, no kids and can find 10 hours a week if I wanted to, but I have other priorities. Plus I need to setup all my consoles now that I have moved. I need a games room like elvis, or else have stays in storage except the DC.

    One thing I have noted, the more I work in IT the less time I have for PC tinkering in general.
     
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    I've shifted away from AAA gaming to Indie titles as I've become older, the capitalism related to AAA gaming makes me want to puke TBH.
     
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    There are a few big name games on my radar, aside from that, my back log of games is so big, there is no way in the world I'll get around to most of it before ending up in a wooden box. That makes me picky as fuck as time is the one thing I have fuck all of. That said, I dress like I did 10 years ago, haven't seen tv in the last 15 (aside from lost and got and a few other initially small time series that blew out) and that's ok, I think possibly I am stuck in 2000- 2010 and my gaming appetit lies there. I watch my little nephews play rainbow 6 and they ask if I want a turn and say I am just happy watching, same with the rediculous tower building while running in forth night. That's just beyond me. And gowd only knows why on earth I'd pay 100 real bucks for a backpack that looks like a kiddie life vest with a bird on it. But I can dig it, they love it, and that's cool, it's just a different generation. Lol the same way when I am playing donkey Kong country and they go, wtf? And within 5 minutes of me playing declare that's boaring. (Though I can't blame them as I am rubbish at it lol)

    I love gaming, and the kids do too, just another way to do something cool together, regardless of the game. But yeah , lucky I love sniping zombies(TM), otherwise it would be a sad old world out there. Lol
     
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    Ah now ya talkin'. :D


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