Hard Drive Shredding

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  1. psyco18

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    Hi All,

    I've been drives of the last couple of years that I finally need to dispose of. I've got around 100 drives that have all been dban'ed but our company policy requires that they are physically destroyed. I've made a few enquiries and everyone seems to be insistent of supplying a certificate and charging per drive. Ideally I'd like some one who can just shred them all.

    Let me know if anyone has any recommendations.

    Kind Regard
     
  2. wazza

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    I've had Iron Mountain shred drives for us about a year back and the certificate of destruction was optional - we didn't go for this.
    What cost are you getting per drive? I would expect most charge per drive.
     
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    From memory it was in the 20-30$ per drive range which adds up over the amount of drives we’ve accumulated.
     
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    Wow...yeah definitely give Iron Mountain a go. Ours was <$10/drive for what I recall was a similar number of drives, and we were just a first time/no large ongoing deal type customer so no special pricing for volume or repeat business etc.
     
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    Are you likely to keep generating drives you need to destroy? You can buy desktop-sized degaussers and drive manglers which don't completely shred the drive down to dust but will punch holes through the PCB, the motor, the platters etc. A lot of modern drives are glass platters so the punch makes them pretty much explode. Then they're just e-waste. Depends on your volume and the standard you need to destroy to, though. Not sure I'd be happy sending them offsite intact. There are services which come to you with a hammer mill on a truck if you want to go really nuts.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Use them as Clay Pigeons, Make it a team building exercise.
     
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    TIMG similar to Iron Mountain but do it by the Kg, We did 30 odd KG of HDD Tapes and old phones earlier this year for Circa $300 with certificate. Auditors like to see these things
     
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    Yep costs can vary based on whether you need a certificate for each individual drive, or if you can do a certificate for a batch. Get your compliance people over the line with batch destruction and you will have an easier life.
     
  9. PabloEscobar

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    Get your compliance people over the line with

    "Dban is fine"

    and stop crushing stuff that could still be have a long and happy life somewhere else.
     
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    Damn. This title. Had me hoping there was a video. There wasnt a video.
     
  11. Urbansprawl

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    ISM says no.

    also how many people in the thread know that the dban license forbids commercial use these days?
     
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    If you have to follow the ISM, you have to use approved methods or approved out sourcers. that'll be why your quote isn't cheap, Gov approved out sourcers come with 'dealing with government policy crap' tax on top, and you have to use them, so you have to pay.

    if you're not dealing with government classified data, why the fuck you following the ISM, that just adds needless expense.


     
  13. PabloEscobar

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    If you're playing the ISM Game, you're not asking OCAU for vendors.

    Citation needed, it looks like some commercial mob has bought DBAN and are marketing a 'pro' version with certification and whatnot.

    That being said, I was using it a verb, to mean 'secure erase', teh crux of my argument is essentially - If the shit you have on your hard drives is important enough that rivals will pay to recover after a secure erase, then you've probably already got processes in place to ensure secure destruction of said drives.

    if you don't. secure erase is enough to stop someone Running GetDataBack and seeing all your 'secret' goat porn.
     
  14. Urbansprawl

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    DBAN was acquired back in 2012 and there hasn't been an update to the GPL version of the tool since 2015 - anything more recent than that has a restricted license. You can pay for the commercial version if you need something that's Common Criteria certified etc.

    Understand using dban as a verb but nwipe is better these days.
     
  15. Urbansprawl

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    Search your heart and ask if you really believe this :)
     
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    Nail punch and a hammer. You can get through a pile of drives in not too much time.
     
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    If you don't need certificate of destruction I am sure there are those break rooms
    https://thebreakroom.com.au
    Or even better artwork.
    At least you know where the data is stored and what time it is as well.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Will make it more annoying to recover data, but would be ineffective against anything thats multi-platter or non glass platter. Plus time wise it's a waste - for what I paid for pro destruction I'd go that route again over basically anything else. In my case not all drives had been secure erased (largely removed from non working machines, ancient machines you just wouldn't bother powering up, or the drives themselves had issues so couldn't be sure they were erased), but really unless the drive or machine was worth re-using I'd not even bother erasing vs destroying now.

    Can you find anything similar that will guarantee data is completely sanitised? Doubt many would offer a guarantee, all they can really do is go for no current known way to recover if it's been sanitised correctly
     

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