Harley keyfobs

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  1. xc351

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    Has anyone played arround with harley key fobs new bikes are 100% keyless start. Presume many cars would use similar tech.

    Is it as simple as rfid, can we clone it onto a card/chip or similar.

    Ideally I'd like to simply stich one into my riding gloves (presuming I can get it o to a small enough device)

    I think there an active unit but have no idea what the batt would do.

    The oem unit is large and bulky
     
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    No, it's a code hopping unit like modern car fobs. I know you can get replacements, but the main cost is getting them set up on the bike.
    What's wrong with in your pocket or on a lanyard? If you really don't want to use a fob, there's a the pin code which you can program.
     
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    Yea ive used the pin a few times. Just an extra thing to carry. Seen some cars that use a simple rfid car style.

    It's not that it's massive or anything. Just seems like I have 1000 keys here I do seperate them but would be nice to streamline it.
     
  4. mjunek

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    When my uncle bought his keyless start Harley, he was warned never to put it in the bike jacket; but to always keep it in your pants somewhere.

    Reason-
    1. You start the bike in the garage
    2. You go for a ride around the block to fill the bike up
    3. You fill up the bike
    4. You realise you left the jacket in the garage, near the bike.
    5. Umm...shit.
     
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    Yea that's why I was thinking glove or helmet. There is a pin code that u can insert via indicators.

    If they have locked it down that much its not worth playing with don't want to simply make a new token but make it much smaller.

    I read to much fb and random crap on the net and I'm concerned someone could use a $20 scanner and clone the key or amplify the signal.
     
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    they're stolen so often (via vans) that if it was that easy to clone them it would be a massive well advertised thing.
     
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    As already noted, if it was easy to clone then lots more Hardlies would be on the "Missing, Presumed Dead" list at the insurers.

    So stop fartarsing around - buy another key coded to your bike and cut it up.
     
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    One legit problem with passive keyless entry/start (the one where you don't have to touch your fob ever) is the repeater attack. Cheap aftermarket systems will definitely be susceptible, many manufacturer systems are too.

    With a repeater attack it depends on how the immobiliser system is programmed, but based on mjunek's story I guess the Harley bike system won't do anything until it's turned off again. I guess killing the engine suddenly on a bike is far more unsafe than a car.
     
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    eh, always depends on the situation, but because harley are retarded and have a right hand indicator button (rather than a switch for both on the left like normal) i end up hitting the ign kill switch all the time on mine, takes a few seconds to realise why the go go is no working...
     
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    Ive started my bike said f*k this taken of my jacket as its to hot thrown it in the back of the ute went and did my thing then realised once i go to start my bike again, then had to do the code thing more than once.

    But agreed harey being harley is always a pain
     

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