HDD prices

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  1. Kosti

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    NFI, I just want to get some 8TB as cheap as possible even if I have to get a hammer to open then up, just seems everyone is making dollars from my purchases, Tax, CC, GST, Paypal, shipping, FFS I'm sick of it!
     
  2. MUTMAN

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    You work for free I assume ?
    And CC and paypal are your choice.
    I do of course understand your sentiment.
    But be careful what you wish for.
    A work mate was against the idea that he was paying to build the nbn he wouldnt use. And he said user pays was a better outcome.
    I said sure, I dont have or want kids so Ill take back my tax money that funded the birth of your two rug rats and the cost to school the little fuckers for 13 years.
    I havent heard that argument since :)

    My point is clearly mute for hdds, but still ....
     
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  3. Myne_h

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    Tax is unavoidable.
    Shipping is, well, we don't have teleporters yet, do we? So, unavoidable unless you walk into a shop.
    Credit card can kinda be avoided with a debit card - but you'll still have currency conversion fees if you're buying from overseas.

    GST is redundant (tax)
    Paypal? You don't have to use paypal.

    So... you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

    I have two on the way. Price + GST + bank currency fee (I used "USD" and the rate actually seems close to spot price) + shipping.

    $466.87AU
     
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  4. Myne_h

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    Arrived. A week early. Both are WD80-EAMZ (White label red drives)
     
  5. DVDHack

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    Maybe there’s scope for a bulk buy here?
     
  6. Myne_h

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    Up to you.

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive-WDBWLG0080HBK-NESN/dp/B07D5V2ZXD/

    Apparently they will work when shucked in my case Lianli Q25B.
    Running full scan now before shucking.

    More info : https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/7fx0i0/wd_easystore_8tb_compendium/

    Should note, Full scan, lazy way in a VM passing the USB through, using a linux live cd and command:

    sudo badblocks -b 4096 -wvs /dev/sda

    Bold = wont work otherwise. Drive too big for default settings.

    replace sda with whatever your drive is.
     
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  7. AntikytheraBB

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    I bought a couple of WD 10TB Elements from Newegg in the Cyber monday sales, for around $550 AUD delivered.
    Only thing to watch for is the "3.3V Pin issue" which was easily solved for me with a molex to sata power cable.

    I shucked my first drive yesterday. Was heaps easier than I was expecting. The enclosure was very easy to take apart. It is possible they have changed the design. The drive I shucked yesterday is mounted slightly differently inside the enclosure than all the videos I have watched online. Instead of screws on the side of the drive in rubber grommets, mine had four rubber pieces 1cm x 1cm x 3cm on each corner of the drive which held it in place. I'll attempt to get some pictures if the second drive is the same when I shuck it in the next couple of days.
     
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  8. wintermute000

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    Thanks. You are a brave man to throw down $550 for something with no warranty AND shucked!

    The tape mod looks easy, and I have used plenty of SATA to molex adapters before so looks like a go except for concerns re: warranty.
     
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  9. DVDHack

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    Pop the drive back in the case..... bit of plastic glue.... they’ll never notice when you send it back...
     
  10. Myne_h

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    It still has warranty if you put it back in the box.
     
  11. Myne_h

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    105 hrs for the full 4 passes of badblocks on an 8tb. Nuts.
     
  12. greebs

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    Off topic, but although Alaska has 0% state sales tax, many regions do charge taxes on sales. Anchorage is 0%, but other regions/municipalities do levy a tax. It's all over the place. Still an awesome place to visit, as is Oregon (even better, it's state law that you can't fill up your own petrol - pump service every time).
     
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  13. Sektion8

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    I bought a WD MyBook 16TB for a friend... he changed his mind... and I'm paranoid about 8TB of hard-earned content on one drive.

    2x WD80EFAX inside, the prized ones I believe.

    I think i'd rather 4x4TB... am I being short-sighted?? Looking to make the ultimate B4B NAS/DAS for hometheatre & house media share, along with another exact copy.
     
  14. demiurge3141

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    mirror those drives.
     
  15. wintermute000

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    Why would you rather 4x4TB? You have a backup.

    The only real + for 4x4 vs 2x8 is IF that is the total sum size of your array, so you can do RAID5 for 12Tb with the 4x4 whereas you're stuck with RAID1 for 8Tb with 2x8Tb.

    As soon as you move to 3x8Tb its the same as 6x4Tb (can lose 1/3rd of your array) except half the space, noise, heat and power (more or less).

    The other thing is that if you're using a small Synology/QNAP pre-built then the stuff with 4 bays or less is a class cheaper than the bigger chassis, and 4x4 you're maxing it out immediately.
     
  16. DVDHack

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    You can run RAID6, so two drives can fail and still recover. Rebuild time is shorter for 4TB. It’s cheaper to incrementally add a bit of capacity and takes less time. It’s cheaper to keep a spare 4TB drive.

    There’s a bunch of reasons you might.
     
  17. MUTMAN

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    Raid 5/6 rebuild time would be loooong.
    I recently witnessed a 16 day rebuild of a raid 5 ...
    All that time with out a UPS too. That could of been the end of all the data ...
    Youd be better keeping offline backups

    Edit ~ dont forget the increased chance of failure with more drives
     
  18. Sektion8

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    Offline is what I've always done. HDDs in a drawer, a different brand to originals (ie: Samsung vs WD Green)
    In some ways, it's cheapest & simplest. No special hardware, and 1:1.

    Anyway, dragging everything OT... sorry!
     
  19. wintermute000

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    He did say another exact copy which I'm taking to be backup
     
  20. demiurge3141

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    In that case it might be quicker to copy out the data and restore.
     

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