Heads Up Cheap 4port SAS controllers

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  1. Stanza

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    Looking thru the
    Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i UIO 8 port sas/sata card
    thread

    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=759278

    Someone posted a link to an ebay seller listing
    Dell P/N: 0HN359 SAS 5 PCIE Adapter Card USC-51 MY412

    Looking at these card they appeared to be cut down / similar versions of the Dell SAS 5/e (8port external) controllers..... except with 4 internal ports.

    Think of a PERC 5/i without RAID or Memory or Battery and reduced to 4 ports instead of 8.

    So a 4port internal SAS HBA

    Looking up specs they appear to be LSI 1068 chipset

    Being a cheap bastard I thought they might be worth a try seeing as they were listed as BUY NOW for $9.99...

    Well my 2 arrived yesterday, placed one in my HP ML350 G4 server in the 8x PCI-E slot....but alas loud beeping upon turning it on.

    Decided I was worth a shot to try the PERC 5/i trick of covering pins 5 & 6 with tape and tried again.

    Fired right up and recognised the 4 attached drives:D

    Installed Opensolaris and it recognised the card as a LSI 1068 SAS HBA
    ZFS was happy.

    so far all seems fine.

    Tried also in an ASUS P6T Deluxe, with the tape trick... didn't seem to work as yet. But I know the PERC 5/i's also have trouble in certain motherboards.... so more testing required on this board.

    Looking at the PCI-E pins these are slightly different to a PERC 5/i in that pins 1,2,3 are joined together.... where the PERC 5/i has pins 1,2,3 seperate
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    I didn't upgrade any firmware (looks like the ones I received are the 1st A00 gen versions) but looks like they can be upgraded to firmware A04 as thats available on the Dell site.

    Upgrade the Firmware HOWTO
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=12000789&postcount=88


    Now I am wondering if they will work with say a Chenbro or HP SAS expander ??:leet:
    (Confirmed by user Chello_Wien to be working on Chenbro)

    Cheap way to get a bucket load of SAS / SATA ports..:thumbup:

    So here are the links if anyone else is a cheapo bastard like myself and wants to grab a bargin:thumbup:

    Cards I got (no cable, no Mounting Bracket) $9.99 USD + $7 shipping
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320537995567&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

    Same card with short SAS to SAS cable $12.99 USD + $6.50 shipping
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dell-P-N-0HN359-SAS-5-PCIE-Adapter-Card-USC-51-CABLE-/220616616937?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335dc66be9

    Same card with Mounting Bracket $17.50 USD + $7 Shipping
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dell-0HN359-SAS-5-PCIE-Card-USC-51-MY412-Front-Bracket-/320540677266?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa1b69492

    Mine arrived within a week of buying, Nice Seller good communication.


    Known Working Motherboards / Systems
    Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H
    Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-UD4H
    Gigabyte GA-M61SME-S2
    Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD3
    Gigabyte GA-MA78LM-S2
    Gigabyte GA-880GMA-UD2H (needs tape / pin mod)
    Gigabyte P35-DS3 - no tape mod
    Gigabyte GA-970A-D3
    Asrock P67 Extreme 6 B3
    Asus M4A785-M
    Asus P5K-E/Wifi (P35 chipset) (needs tape / pin mod)
    Asus P5W DH Deluxe (needs tape / pin mod)
    Asus P5Q-Pro (P45 chipset) (needs tape / pin mod)
    Asus P5KPL 1600 - no tape mod
    Asus P5NSLI -no tape mod
    Asus M2N32-SLI-DELUXE (needs tape / pin mod)
    Asus p5ld2 (needs tape / pin mod)
    Asus Striker Extreame (needs tape / pin mod)
    Biostar TA760G M2+
    Intel S5520hcr server board - no tape mod
    Intel S5000VSA server board - no tape mod
    Intel S5000PSLSATA Dual Xeon board - No tape mod
    HP Proliant ML350 G4 (needs tape / pin mod)
    HP Proliant ML350 G4p (needs tape / pin mod)
    HP Proliant ML350 G5 (needs tape / pin mod)


    Know Working SAS Expanders
    Chenbro CK13601

    Original PERC 5/i thread at Overclockers.net for possibly more supported / confirmed working motherboards
    http://www.overclock.net/raid-controllers-software/359025-perc-5-i-raid-card-tips.html

    Know PCI slot brackets that fit
    HP Netraid 1SI scsi controller (fits perfectly)

    ..
     
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  2. Jazz

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    Yeah, I've been eyeballing these for a while, but with an Asus P6T, I've been waiting for working confirmation, and your news with the Deluxe isn't helping :)
     
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    For an SAS noob - the one with cables provided shows 2 connectors, but they're actually 2 ports per connector, right? So you'd need some sort of adaptor or SAS compatible backplane to be able to plug them into a SATA drive?
     
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    i know zilch about SAS, but what would be the point of getting that with SAS-->SATA cable, over say getting a $10 PCI sata extender ?
     
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    I bought one as well and mine arrived yesterday. Haven't had a chance to use it yet. Going to go in an Asus m4a77td board. Intended for use in a mdadm setup.

    No RAID-5 support on the card and you can only realistically put in only one card per server due to the usual lack of 'long' PCI-e ports.
     
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    question about covering the pins, did you need to cover pins 5 & 6 on both sides of the card or just the front?
     
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    I don't get it... what are they? and what do they do?
    I'm about to upgrade PC and have seen something about SAS on a board, but have no idea about them...
     
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    This particular card just lets you add more SATA ports to your system, being PCIe x4 its a good solution.
     
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    yes just the front side,

    ie Heatsink Side counting pins from the left.
     
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    Not quite right, but close

    it lets you Add SAS ports to your existing motherboard...
    And if my suspicions are correct....yet to try it for sure
    you could connect to a SAS backplane with say an internal expander

    something like say this one
    http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/mobilerack/CSE-M28E2.cfm

    Daisy chain up too 12 of them to add up to say 96 drives
    which is a bit better than the 4 port sil3124 type PCI sata controllers and a little faster;)
     
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    correct, please note these cards are slightly different, in that the 1st 3 pins on the left are joined together...tho you can see about 1/4mm of the pins down bottom above that 1/4 inch it's one big flat pad.

    So on this card it's actually pins 3,4 physically....try and take a photo later to show you
     
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    well I've ordered one :D
    along with a SFF8484 to SFF8087 mini cable
    at that price its hard to pass on, will test it out with a sas expander (most likely HP one) sometime in the future
     
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    not sure what you mean by long PCI-e port?

    The motherboard in the ML350 G4 has 2 x shorty PCI-e slots and
    I can put both cards in fine.

    Looking at the Asus P6T board, I recon it would take 2 of them possibly 3 of them with a PCI video card. Depends on the speed of the PCI-e slots I guess?

    Card actually says 8xPCI-e down near the PCI-e connector... will try it in a 4 x slot later. Maybe just a label for Dell Servers?
     
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    Sorry mate, I was thinking more in terms of someone getting a sas-sata cable and just using it for storage.

    I've been also looking at the cheap 5/e cards on ebay and trying to put together an external solution. With my P6T, its basically the same board as your Deluxe, so I'm just waiting for confirmation that someone has it working in the board before I get one, as the controller range seems to have some board incompatibilities.
     
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    Just did some more testing

    Installed the second controller in the remaining 4xPCI-e slot to see if 2 cards will work together.

    Had to go into card BIOS as it said configuration had changed. (fair enuf) as I had moved one drive to the new controller... and the bios now I guess found 2 controllers)

    Changed the settings to controller order (original as controller 0 and additional card as controller 1)

    Rebooted and all drives are recognised.

    When I get time later I will do a re install with the new dual card config.

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    My main trial for a dual card config is that I want to (when money permits)
    have one of these card controlling 4 drives inside my server.

    And the SAS 5/e card I have connected to another 8 drives in an external case.

    Later with more drives via a SAS expander if they work with them.

    So far so good. 8 extra internal SAS ports for $40:thumbup:
     
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