Help choosing HDTV for oldschool console gaming

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  1. KoroKoro

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    I've been looking at this site, but they seem to only list US models.
    https://displaylag.com/display-database/

    I've asked LG etc directly and they are completely useless telling me that 240Hz is good... ffs

    Apart from spending a fortune shipping a display directly from the US, is there any kind of resource to find what the Australian domestic market has to offer in terms of latency?

    Thanks.
     
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    Why not just get a CRT?
    If it's for old school....
     
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    Actually I've got 2 rgb crts, unfortunately they both need recapping really badly... its a bit of a big job. Oh and they dont support component, so that rules out the ps2 and gamecube. Unfortunately for me I've modded my NES and N64 for HDMI as well...
    So in need for a low latency HDTV...
     
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    Are you going to be playing competitive Donkey Kong or Goldeneye? Perplexed as to why super low input lag would be so high on your list.
     
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    actually I play ssbm competitively. though my scaler has 21ms delay (+rog gaming monitor), so we stick to using a CRT. But on top of that, my current 4K 55" from LG is giving me over 160ms (9.5 frames) which renders almost any twitch game unplayable... and yes, I've mucked around with every setting. game mode does shit.
     
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    I find it really hard to believe that console gamers can tolerate this...
    Are there literally no decent TVs out there?
     
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    Local "WTB for beer" on Gumtree or FB Marketplace should surely net you a few large CRTs of your choosing. Best would be a 32" mid-00 16:9 CRT if you have the fitness/space to move it in.
     
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    Unfortunately lag on HD-CRTs are just as bad as LCDs :(
     
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    Just buy a computer monitor they don't have any of the lag creating features tvs have.
     
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    lol just get a crt
     
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    "lol just get a crt"
    just... oh why didn't I think of that? Oh right, doesn't accept digital video...

    PB, I actually seriously considered this. Whats the largest 16:9 1080p or 4K monitor that you can get? Though out of all of the consumer grade cheap LCD monitors I have (lag is almost acceptable) but ghosting is really getting on my nerves. Anything over 7.5 fps and 120 pixels/second is a complete blurry mess.
    https://www.testufo.com/framerates#count=6&background=stars&pps=120

    I can't even play sonic the hedgehog... barely keeps up with mario...
     
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    yes it does with a converter
     
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    What is this magic converter you speak of?
     
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    I think I'll pass...

    But seriously, get that thing away from me...
     
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    so you dont know what that is yet you want to get into retro gaming? Are you just hooking up a older screen to a emulator or you've actually got consoles? Not much detail i cant help if i dont know what you're trying to do exactly, that said there is decent hardware outthere you didnt give a budget .
     
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    Also, I'm pretty sure I stated what systems and connectors. NES and N64 connected via HDMI. Every other system I have going through my XRGB3. Outputs DVI, for this purpose - same as HDMI.
    However, I am tapping out RGB from my gscartsw to my 2x large RGB monitors. Cant do that with HDMI.
    FYI i have all the consoles. It isn't really relevant. All I need is a low latency HDTV so my games will actually be playable. Heck, I can even tell in movies from the sound delay. Its a thing... which is why they have the sound delay settings in my onkyo receiver... Though doesn't help in games.
     
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    so you need something thats low latency? emulation is out i am guessing so just get a larger sony hd widescreen and run it in 4:3 mode low latency best picture quality
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    unless you buy a expensive low latnecy mid-high end stand alone scaler you're gonna have issues with latency having right now...
     
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    Emulation is an impure sin. You should repent.
    I already said I'm using an XRGB3. It is a high end scaler. Line doubling mode is basically zero lag. scaling mode is 21.4ms due to frame buffer. Fast enough for pretty much any game. The problem is not the scaler. It's the display (Specifically the display controller).
    I also already pointed out that HD CRTs lag just as much as modern flat panel TVs. The issue is with shitty digital to analogue conversion and unnecessary post processing that can't be disabled.
    However that doesn't mean you can't have a fast HDTV. For example, you can get less than 1 frame of latency on a 2017 model TCL 55DP648. Unfortunately they are only available in USA, UK etc. They aren't even expensive. I have asked LG and TCL directly but they refuse to help me. They can't even sell me a TV form the current Australian lineup. Pathetic.

    I don't understand why people find this so difficult to understand... This is doing my head in...
     
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    So you want something that doesnt exist? Good luck.

    Low Latency screens dont really exist even the modern 244hz crap lags and needs shit like ulmb
     

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