Host wikileaks - good or bad?

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by Davo1111, Dec 6, 2010.

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Would you consider mirroring wikileaks?

  1. yes - I would

    63 vote(s)
    23.5%
  2. yes - but can't due to tech/internet/work/other restrictions

    83 vote(s)
    31.0%
  3. Unsure

    22 vote(s)
    8.2%
  4. No

    76 vote(s)
    28.4%
  5. Candy

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    9.0%
  1. Davo1111

    Davo1111 Member

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    Wikileaks is asking people to host the wikileaks site on their server. It seems an interesting way to counter the issue of mass DDOS-ing attempts from the US.

    When i'm back at college, i'd be very happy to help do this, but just curious about other people's opinions.

    Do you think its a good idea? would you consider it yourself?

    See attached poll.

    fffffffffuuuuuuu missed the poll button, and now i cant seem to add it. :(

    Would you consider mirroring wikileaks?
    a) yes - i would
    b) yes - but can't due to tech/internet/work/other restrictions
    c) unsure
    d) no
    e) candy

    I've pmed the mods, hopefully they can add one.
     
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  2. de_overfiend

    de_overfiend Member

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    ill go b and e (hmmm candy :))
     
  3. Iceman

    Iceman Member

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    Are you talking about hosting this;

    * at your college, physically located in australia
    * in a manner that is very clearly attached to you personally
    * subject to Australian law
    * on your colleges bandwidth
    * in violation of their "no servers" policy (I'm willing to bet exists)
    * hosting data that seriously pisses off a lot of powerful people
    * hosting data that our Prime Minister has declared "illegal" and "grossly irresponsible",
    * hosting data that the Attorney-General Robert McCLelland has promised to support any law enforcement measures taken against?

    Is this a good idea? If you think so after that, please let me know how you go :D
     
  4. elvis

    elvis Old school old fool

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    Buy yourself a cheap VPS somewhere in the world and host away. Pretty easy thing to do with little ramification if you really want to aid the cause.
     
  5. FiShy

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    I voted yes to do as above.


    Hosting in Aus is a no no, we have to many gay laws. (or gay lords keke)


    Even if they kill the website, Wikileaks can just push the next leak out via BT.
     
  6. g@z

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    WTF is candy? You mean lollies? :D

    Regards,
    g@z.
     
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    fair enough, i see what you're saying.

    I'll be vpn-ing then.

    FYI ive been running COD4 dedicated servers, music streaming servers, and chat servers all from my room. They dont care unless someone outside the uni kicks up a stink.
     
  8. Thelen

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    Need an option for "yes, mirroring now". 15 mirrors as I type :)
     
  9. biatch

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    Game, music and chat servers aren't really a fair comparison. :)
    "Someone outside the uni" would definitely "kick up a stick" if you went into contributing hosting to wikileaks
     
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    15 mirrors? all yours!? holy shit!
    nice work dude :)
     
  11. bugayev

    bugayev Whammy!

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    And just because it's not been discovered doesn't mean they won't like it. Answer this question - should someone trace it back to you, are you prepared to have them kick your arse out?

    That's what will happen, no ifs no buts. Hosting a legally suspect server mirror using their infrastructure in violation of every acceptable use term there is will result in only one thing: exclusion from the institution.
     
  12. foxmulder881

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    I would if I had the resources. Why not.
     
  13. 3stars

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    yeah child porn and Wikileaks are the same thing :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  14. foxmulder881

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    I only seen IACSecurity's comment because you quoted it, I have him on my ignore list so I never see his posts. Thank god I do, due to dip shit comments like this one. As always, taking this out of proportion.
     
  15. FatBoyNotSoSlim

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    Sure, why not.
     
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    LEARN TO READ PEOPLE, I agree with IAC on this one.

    Its not a dipshit comment, you just apparently dont understand the comment.

    He is not saying they are, in any way shape or form.

    Let's put it this way:

    WikiLeaks is asking you to host their site, which if hosted in Australia could potentially be breaking Australian laws, and being an Australian citizen, you could be facing harsh penalties for doing so. You are only considering it because you have a favorable opinion to the cause of WikiLeaks.
    You are essentially breaking the law. Comparisons aside, you very well could implicate yourself which depending on the laws (which I do not know on this matter), could lead to a criminal conviction.

    IACSecurity was simply stating it's worth thinking about before jumping in and putting yourself in the crosshair.

    EDIT: He beat me in to defend himself anyways :)
     
  17. Bombaman

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    Where the problem lies with IACSecuritys comment is that a more suitable yet similarly 'extreme' comparison could of been made without flagging towards CP.
     
  18. omaraa

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    I'd have gone for terrorism myself. Bomb plans or something... Much more related to national security than CP, and those with that material believe that they are doing 'the right thing' in some way or other. :thumbup:

    To the OP, I'd seriously think this through. What you've hosted sofar is not illegal. It may be misuse of their infrastructure, but it is unlikely that anyone who stumbles upon what you've hosted will care that it's hosted at a college, or report you to anyone.

    Wikileaks on the other hand... there is a lot of potential for people to kick up a fuss.
     
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  19. 3stars

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    Yes just like ACA or TT inflametary and pointless, Wikileaks at least can appeal to someones moral stand point.
     
  20. Iceman

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    So does CP. Otherwise it wouldn't be an (allegedly) prolific problem now, would it?

    In both examples you have something that the majority of people with power have a vested interest in targeting. In one case they gain brownie points by championing children. In another, they're trying to prevent their dirty laundry from being aired.

    The net effect to the host of such materials is going to be (as IAC put it) "[you'll be] pushing stuff uphill to defend yourself"

    It's actually a very valid comparison. If you don't understand why, that's fine. But I strongly suggest you don't ever attempt to host wikileaks or do anything that would bring you undue attention from the authorities.

    Unless of course you have a very strong wish to see how easily your life can be utterly destroyed by simple acts like "I just uploaded a file".
     

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