I was reading the news this morning, which included the casual browsing of an article relating to a government ministry (in New Zealand, as it happens). During the course of the article, it was mentioned that the ministry had 300-400 "permanent and temporary" IT staff. "300 to 400??!", I thought. What are they running, a cluster of COBOL Death Stars or something?? Or maybe their network consists of human runners transferring the packets by hand? But I'm a noob about this stuff really, so perhaps my incredulity is unfounded. It's just that I read about some of the one-man-army types in here, who sound like they can single-handedly (well, virtually - I know they probably have some staff) design, implement and maintain giant corporate networks. So what do you guys reckon? How many IT staff does it take - ballpark - for, say: -an office of 10 (presumably, "1") -5 offices, 100 total -100 offices, 5000 total seats -etc... What's your impression when you read that a small govt dept takes 300-400 IT staff to run? Does it sound ridiculous to you, or just par for the course? I know there are so many variables, it may be a pointless question. But discuss if you wish..