iiNet to acquire Internode

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  1. TheWedgie

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    This. Although for me, really only usenet.

    I do like the idea of iiNet's unmetered iTunes Store though - will make iTunes Match'ing my ~60Gb collection a bit easier on the download limit...

    I'm also stuck on ADSL1, and my grandfathered plan is one of the few that actually have a decent value (50Gb for $49.95).
     
  2. thetron

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    Its one of those plans which you can't be forced off. Your very lucky!
     
  3. AgB deano

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    If people have a look at the Netspace website, I think they'll have a good reference as what to expect from this merger.

    I am really interested to know whether they will keep all internode/agile infrastructure to have greater DSLAM access. Considering rack space is always a premium and an awful lot of exchanges have limited or no ports, I am sure it would be nice to offer iinet packages on free agile ports, vice versa, etc.

    Long term, if this merger means another substantial competitor in the NBN scene, sounds good to me.

    Are you sure the uploads aren't measured?

    I was under the impression that telstra charges for all data on all non business plans.

    It is a pretty good deal if you use the home phone heaps, just signed a family member onto it today.
     
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  4. IKT

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    Not the least because node isn't forcing customers off of plans anymore.
     
  5. thetron

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    Both use the same type of Ericsson DSLAM. You simply can't combined them into a single rack because DSLAM are in fixed points inside of a telephone exchange

    As I said before IINET want both Agile infrastructure more then the Internode customer base.

    In some exchanges you can only have a one profitable 3rd party DSLAM provider.
    Eg if Adam Internet setups shop in one exchange, then it would be unprofitable and block out IINET/Internode and any other DSLAM provider

    Unless you have that customer base
     
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  6. Ragnorak

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    Hopefully it will kill it off. Though I'd be more than willing to put in my 5 cents worth to help it on it's way.

    Can't say I'd miss seeing the fanbois descending like a screeching flock of seagulls on a chip when anyone was unfortunate enough to have a differing view on how greater Node was.

    lmao. Maybe I should go and remind them that Node were going to force me off my plan and make me pay an extra $30 a month to keep my service at the same level I've become accustomed to. That was a 37% increase in pricing.
     
  7. biatch

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    I'm not too sure what to think of it.
    Internode were probably iiNet's closest competitor so what will happen to pricing now that there's less competition?

    But then if people weren't so focused on getting the cheapest link possible (and then later complaining when they find out what they've compromised on) then perhaps Internode wouldn't have been in financial difficulty to start with.

    TPG has proved that people mostly just want the cheapest they can get... so what incentive do iiNet have to keep their service levels up?
    I've been with iiNet for many years and very rarely have any problems.
     
  8. HunterBunter

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    There are always 3 large groups in every market; those that want the cheapest possible price, those that want the highest quality/service, and those who have nfi what they're doing/going for but will eventually randomly pick something.

    I think there's still incentive on being perceived as the best quality or service...there are still tons of other isps.
     
  9. FiShy

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    "iiNet's closest competitor" lol


    IInet competes with TGP, telstra and Optus... internode was never competing .
     
  10. biatch

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    From a user point of view, sure it was.

    People who wanted the cheapest service went to TPG, people who wanted to pay a bit more for a better service went to iiNet or Internode.
    They were both a good option for people who didn't want a cheap shitty ISP, or a huge telco like Optus or Telstra.
     
  11. trackhappy

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    It's amusing to see all the Internode diehards assume that because someone buys them the sky is falling. While I do share some of that concern (Internode was one of those ISPs which we wanted but couldn't have), it was bound to happen. Simon rested on his laurels too long.
     
  12. biatch

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    Not sure if you're talking about me but I have never been an Internode customer - I'm with iiNet and can't see any good come from the buyout either. ;)
     
  13. thetron

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    Both of us have worked for the same company and know that most ISP run barely profitable margins

    There alot of smoke and mirror tricks by the company CEO/COO or MD too. In this instance with internode there been alot of bad decision and costing the company over the past two years

    But then again. Its no difference to another ISP MD/CEO making bad decisions too :)
     
  14. ddk

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    I left iiNet for Internode.

    This puts me in a very awkward position at company BBQ's.
     
  15. thetron

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    lol your the web designer that node 'approached'

    FYI: There were post on wp about you!
     
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  16. qwertylesh

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    he probably prefers the term poached ;)
     
  17. ddk

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    Erm, I meant as a customer; it was a joke.

    I am not the web designer you are looking for; move along.
     
  18. MR CHILLED

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    "Interode takeover boosts iiNet's profit "

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busin...ts-iinets-profit/story-e6frede3-1226451693380

     
  19. thetron

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    Like I've always stated. Iinet had purchased internode for their profitable business customers base and international agile communication "tier 1" network.service.

    Retail customers are just a marketing tool thats non profitable
     
  20. Primüs

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    Working for a wholesale ISP most the ISP's we service, DSL is there bread and butter. Keeps the lights on. These business really move forward in their managed services, business services and voice billing (PSTN/VoIP/Mobile).

    However for us, our retail user base is the most profitable as the wholesale network is mostly paid for by the other ISP's and we just run our retail network on it =)
     

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