Discussion in 'Intel x86 CPUs and chipsets' started by vlinx, Dec 12, 2020.
Cpu's are worth 50% of initial cost in a few years. Fools gold
I'm not so sure that one of the most terrible CPU's in recent history is going to be all that collectable but you do you.
I'd have bets on them rebranding the next generation, like they did after the Pentium 4. That's if the new generation is actually good, just to disassociate it with the 14nm+++++ debacle. So it may be the fastest 'Core' processor ever, just because it is so crap. Whether or not that makes it worth more or less?
Love it. I have no farken idea what's going on anymore in this thread hahah.
Don't worry, Intel have NFI about this entire generation.
I am genuinely looking forward to their proper 10nm offering though. That will hopefully prove to be promising.
I'll probably be due for a CPU change by that stage and AMD or Intel i'll need a new board for it, so I'm open to both again.
I am literally in tears with the 11700K. That's my first impression in the motherboard. Looking at the bios. Fugg me
It is so bad. I withdrew it from ocau sale also. My conscience could not let me sell it.
How can it be a K processor? 1.4v for 48x stock
The sp rating in the bios 57?
Then I did some lite 50's 2 cores spi. Asus app in windows 51x. It's not stable to even open a web page 1.45v no HT.
So then I'm back in bios.
The rating of this processor is wait for it.
51x 1.628v avx
non avx a tad better.
Letter to Intel. I'm writing it.
The biggest $600 piece of poo I have ever seen in more than 10 years. Not happy
Thank you for your sacrifice.
Haha. You are too funny
I'd take a photo of the bios with the sucky voltage, but knowing my luck the camera would break
Hahaha damn Shane looks like they charge the premium for the 11900K for a reason. Imma stick with my 10700KF I guess... Until Azzan's sealed retail 11900K depreciates to $100 next year and imma buy it off him then.
I suck buying processors from the shops.
Azzan's processors are depreciating a dollar a day yep x2
11900K is still 14nm and it's only got 8 cores due to large die size but there's huge performance uplift from the architecture updates that Intel had made to the 11th gen compared to 10th and 9th gen(10700K & 9900K use the exact same cores) and it's not a small improvement, 10th/9th gen can overclock higher but 11900K(@6.5GHz) will absolutely demolish the 9900K(@6.9GHz) on cinebench, geekbench, superpi etc while running 400MHz slower.
11900K overclocks well despite having massive high ipc core and it's also got great imc, extreme ocers got the memory to 5200C14/5300C15 on Z590 Apex(~13K memory score on geekbench 3).. gl doing that on other setup.
No doubting it's got some potential for big numbers in benchmarks, but again I wonder how much that's really gonna do for resale.
11900k is actually good, great IPC and still can improve with future bios updates. Basically is same as 5800x with intel memory management rather than shitty Infinity Fabric b×llshit. I like it!!
Intel, Well done once again!
Memory overclock on 11900K is just insane..
i.e. who needs DDR5? dude in Taiwan set the new world record other day by reaching DDR4-7200 speed on MSI Z590 Unify with 11900K.
Obviously he had to use expensive high end ram($750+ 16GB Kingston HyperX Predator DDR4, so $375+ per 8GB, https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en...104935?Item=9SIA1K6DVF5678&Tpk=9SIA1K6DVF5678), more than 10 times the price of Kingston HyperX DDR4($32.50 per 8GB) sold by Sammy few days ago, https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/32gb-4x8gb-hyperx-ddr4-2666.1301366/
11gen memory oc , best ever cpu
That may be the case but I'm intending to get a Z590 motherboard and putting in a 10700K in there as I just need the speed for gaming where its almost as good and any extra benefits you mentioned running those benchmarks probably won't really matter to me. I will also be using a twin tower CPU cooler and I suspect for 11th gen I would probably need to spend extra and use water for that.
Why bother with Z590 at all? I know there's only about $50 difference, but that's $50 that could go into something else. If you get a GB or MSI Z490, these don't lose out on anything vs Z590 pretty much.
I think you get lower CPU to Chipset bandwidth (4 vs 8X)
These things are in flux at the moment and I generally buy boards and CPU's to last a long time, currently I've got a HEDT X79S-UP5-Wifi which I bought around 2014 and at the time I had a 3820 or a 4820K to go with it but upgraded to my current hexacore 4930K shortly thereafter to extend its life given at the time the consumer platforms were only quad cores. I've had about 6 or 7 video card combinations throughout that period given most of the heavy lifting is now done more by the video cards and I started off with like 660TI in SLI, 670 in SLI, 680, 1070, 1070 in SLI, and 1080Ti now but I'm only getting two thirds the frame rate I would be getting with a more modern processor and BFV is struggling even at 1080p in Ultra settings and especially with BF6 coming so a CPU/MOBO upgrade is well overdue and hence a video card upgrade can wait awhile.
I'm thinking of going 11th gen CPU now and hence the motherboard I've selected to buy is the Gigabyte Vision D which is probably going to be around the $600 mark and it has all the bells and whistles on it which I may never get to use but I figure if I can keep this as a gaming platform for say five years or so then amortizing the extra cost over this period is insignificant and together with an 11700KF over a tenth gen 10700K will probably also give me an extra years worth of grunt when I'll need it more towards the end of its life.
I would personally get a cheaper Mobo and get a better CPU or GPU with the money.
Unless you are panning on using a specific feature of that board it will not provide any extra longevity over a cheaper board (assuming Similar VRM ect). I mean don't buy the cheapest board around but $600 is abit overkill unless you just have money to burn.
With those expensive boards you are generally not paying or better quality just extra features. (10Gb, more ports, extreme overclocking ect)