Intel 11th Gen Rocket Lake desktop CPU in early 2021

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  1. groovetek

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    Each to their own I guess, but I'm with Butcher9_9 in that $600 is alot for a motherboard.

    For $250 you can get something that's nearly as good, whilst avoiding cheap/nasty Asrock vanilla pov-VRM type boards.

    For anyone considering 11th Gen, given the limited OC headroom, also maybe better off saving even more $ and getting a B560 motherboard too.

    Last year, my Z490 board only cost me $200 and I run my 10700K @ 5.2ghz all-core (no AVX offset). Don't really need a $600 board to do achieve that.
     
  2. Butcher9_9

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    Even if you want something with extra features $300-400 board will get you 90% of what that board does (2.5Gb, great VRM, Wifi, 3x M2 slots, Debug LEDs )

    I must admit that that board does look nice.
     
  3. Kelvin

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    That’s a lot of money to spend on a dead end docket Ruth no potential upgradibility ..
    If you spend that kind of money on 11700k ..

    spending it on the am4+ plus a 5800x
    Gives you the potential of 12 or 16 cores..

    even going Am4 with a 3700.. and then going to 5900x/5950x when supplies improve and prices drop could be a goer .. there will a as lady’s be a decent demand for the arm hand 3000 segues cpu .. given they can work with neatly all am4 motherboards

     
  4. Radley

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    No one's buying them and expecting any less. In fact, I'd expect to replace them every 3 years max.
     
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    Much worse than that my friend.
    I expect low resale $ for the 11th gen I bought :thumbdn: even if it's a brief 2 min test in Apex for sp quality. They are faster for the better IPC.
    But it's like a 10600K 5ghz matches a 11600K 4.7Ghz ie 300 mhz less on water cooling.

    I cannot bring myself to spend on a 4th processor $870. 11900K even though new and shiny tempts me.

    edit sigh
    lottery still resisting :upset: just
     
  6. Radley

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    It was fairly obvious from the specs. I couldn't be happier with my 9900k but people were shitting on that when it was out. I don't see them changing their mind over 11 gen
     
  7. shane41

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    That is a beautiful cpu anyway. I bought the scum 9900KS and Apex 11 a fair while ago. It goes very sweet on watercooling
    Sure a short lived upgrade that one :thumbdn:

    I'm still liking the Intel fightback on 11th gen. I caved and bought another one :upset: sigh more money then sense :lol:
     
  8. shane41

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    talk to me pm. take your levels down ok
     
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    tldr shane, is intel still poo?
     
  10. shane41

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    Yep 1.4v poo stock 4900mhz. 1.5v more poo 100mhz more 5Ghz
    That's all the budget K ones I tested.

    Previous gen could run 5100mhz even a sp43. Not these as the sp has been shifted. 11th gen sp 60 is like a sp20 imo.
    No idea how these can be sold in a K box.

    Only OC with cold can help them
     
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    Apologies for bad pics. The better IPC 11th gen is like watercooled. 49x 11600K vs 53x 10600K

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    What are you peeps getting 11900K with water cooling.
    Because all my reading suggests most are 51x and not much more :Paranoid: for benching.

    Please share :p
     
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    Let's hope Intel can steer the K skus back on track with Alder Lake.
     
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    Your 165 cooler points are pretty bad, 250 is good :shock:
     
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    I'll climb in Woolworths cool room and test it for ya :tongue:
     
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    I intend to keep the Mobo/CPU for around at least five years so the couple hundred extra over that period for all those "extra ports" is what I want to splurge on and besides that extra cost will only cover about 10% of the cost of an RTX3080 so in that scenario I don't mind. My current 4930K cpu is only driving my 1080Ti at two thirds the frame rate it's capable of with a modern processor so I can put off updating the video card at the moment as the latest games are just starting to get a bit jerky so a 50% boost in frame rate will fix that easily.

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    True, but having become accustomed to x58 and x79 boards I like having a lot of connections available without bothering to muck around plugging in PCI-e cards for something I might need later on like Thunderbolt 4. I have just today purchased this board for $525 + P.P. so not that bad a price.

    I want that other 10% as well.

    All the Intel consumer sockets are "dead end" as you put it with the exception of maybe putting some 11th gen CPU's into a 10th gen motherboard. One of the top CPU's for gaming is relatively cheap (10700K/KF) so people buy that at the outset and there's no further upgrade possible but at the same time there's no need for an upgrade because ......

    ... except I don't need the extra cores for anything because they (a) don't really give me anything extra for gaming and (b) there's nothing I do other than gaming that needs more grunt than the lowly 4930K I currently have as I don't render video or anything else like that which could use more than say >8 CPU's.

    That's not to say I won't pick up cheap CPU's with a lot of cores as one of those $100 Xeon E5-2670's I bought on Ebay powers the other X79 board in my NAS and it was interesting that my scrub speed on my ten drive ZFS Raid-Z2 array went up to 1.3 GB's with that CPU compared to 1 GB's with my previous quad core which was either a 3820 or 4820K. I can't do this with HEDT anymore as Intel prohibited running XEON's on HEDT starting with X99 onwards.

    I'll be buying a K processor but don't think I'll bother ever overclocking again. Its too much hassle for not a lot gained in a practical sense. The last thing I overclocked was my dual core E2160 CPU just so I could get the frame rate up in BF2142. Usually I buy K versions for the couple hundred Mhz default clock and boost speeds over non-K versions.

    Finally

    My board will be winging its way over from the mainland so I still have to decide on the CPU and contenders are

    (1) 10700K/KF for around $400 which gets me top notch gaming results which is good enough as that is all what I want and need the horsepower for, or

    (2) an 11th gen which turns on the 3rd M2 slot at version 4 speeds due to the extra four PCI-e lanes and also lets me run memory at 5000 Mhz instead of 3000 Mhz on 10th gen but that means an 11700K for $600 and I'm not sure whether the much faster RAM is of any great benefit as generally the faster you go then you get diminishing returns plus the cost skyrockets exponentially, or

    (3) is there any other significant advantage to an 11900K for $850 over than an 11700K other than slightly higher clock speeds? Better quality silicon perhaps?

    Slightly confused as to which CPU to get, I'll probably decide once the board gets here in conjunction with any suggestions anyone here kindly makes.
     
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    Buy Intel Core i9 10850K Processor [BX8070110850K] | PC Case Gear Australia

    I actually thought the 10850k was about the best value TBH
     
  20. groovetek

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    IMO you should definitely get an 11700K to make the most of your board.

    11900K if money isn't really a problem.
     

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