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Intel ARC (formally DG2) Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by SnooP-WiggleS, Jul 23, 2021.

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    At RnR's request it's time for a thread covering Intel DG2 to hopefully bring back competition to the GPU market. A bit of background, Raja Koduri ex AMD is behind this release so it might actually live up to the hype unlike Intel's past attempts from way back. From his own twitter post we know it's a 512 EU part. For reference the biggest intel onboard graphics is 96 EU (and way lower clock speeds/ tiny TDP), it's not 3090 big but it's a biggish size die.
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    Moore's Law Is Dead has covered this part quite a few times. As below latest leaks are top model is a 3070ti level card for much cheaper but with a way more sensible 16gb of vram could be a good buy. And as below a full stack of cards is planned to go with the top model, 12gb, 8gb cards even a tiny 4gb model.

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    So much interest! Anyways Techtechpotato has a video on the recent intel anouncment, some good cringe to chuckle at.

    Quick more interesting points:
    Branding is intel ARC, with the first model (DG2) being Alchemest, and future gens planned as Battle Mage, Celestial, then Druid. Ray tracing and AI super sampling (DLSS/FSR competitor) confirmed, something coming out Q1 2022.
     
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    I hate moore's law due to his click bait titles..
    But hopefully Intel brings the goods, though looking at how they've been doing in the cpu space in not going to hold my breath..
     
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    Haha yeah more intel cringe. I'm hoping it's enough of a success to shake up the duopoly now that AMD have made it obvious they are just happy matching and just undercutting Nvidia's inflated pricing.
     
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    If its any good it will also be a good mining card and will face the same problem as AMD and NV offerings.

    Be interesting to see if Intel will go 1st party only or bring in AIB for custom cards.
     
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    I'm looking forward to RDNA3 in Q7 2021...

    Hoping Intel can bring it to AMD and nvidia :thumbup:
     
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    No, it will be fantastic if it is a good mining card, as it will free up some stock of AMD/nVidia cards for actual gaming. I think intel will be playing catchup with drivers/features for a bit even if the hardware is great, so mining just might be a big win for intel/gamers, even if gamers aren't immediately buying these.
     
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    Well considering the Xe-HP and Xe-HPC (or whatever they want to call it now) cards have already got super computer design wins already, I have no doubt it will be a half decent mining card.
     
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    Right, so also made at TSMC so will be constrained by output there anyway, unless Intel throw millions at them to get priority
     
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    Compared to the billions Apple & AMD/Sony/Microsoft are throwing at TSMC, Intel would be a drop in the ocean...
     
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    What's the hash rate?
     
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    Yep, they went with Samsung for the vast majority of there non-enterprise current gen.. Hence I didnt mention them..

    Then there is the whole thing around TSMC and Intel being competing businesses.. TSMC would be nuts to shun there largest (read: not Nvidia) customers to benefit there biggest competitor.
     
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    More on XeSS...

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    Hope to see AMD come out and say that they will support XeSS... :D
     
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    https://wccftech.com/intel-xess-interview-karthik-vaidyanathan/

    A long read :thumbup:

    Edit: a tl:dr summary;
    • generalised alg - doesn't need to be trained on every game
    • supports older hardware if they support DP4a (dot product acceleration). More specifically, if the hardware can support Shader Model 6.4+, XeSS should be supported.
    • will not target matrix hardware, other than Intel's own ie will not support nvidia's tensor hardware. all due to a lack of standards.
    • does not use DirectML
    • supports motion vectors. Eq to DLSS 2.0
    • XeSS 2.0 will come eventually
    • it will be open sourced at some point. Confirmed by Karthik.
    • will have various quality modes
     
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