Intel Broadwell-E

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  1. bobbavet

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    Intel Core i7 "Broadwell-E" Lineup to Feature Four SKUs

    "Intel is breaking away from its tradition of three Core i7 HEDT (high-end desktop) processors per generation, capturing price points of $400, $600, and $1000; with its upcoming Core i7 "Broadwell-E" HEDT lineup. According to leaked documents accessed by BenchLife.info, the company is readying four SKUs based on the 14 nm "Broadwell-E" silicon, these include the Core i7-6800K, the Core i7-6850K, the Core i7-6900K, and the Core i7-6950K.

    The Core i7-6800K and i7-6850K are six-core chips, with HyperThreading enabling 12 logical CPUs, and 15 MB shared L3 cache. The i7-6800K is clocked at 3.40 GHz, with a 3.60 GHz Turbo Boost frequency. The i7-6850K is a notch above, with 3.60 GHz core, and 3.80 GHz Turbo Boost frequency. The slide doesn't mention if either of the two parts feature a limited PCIe root complex, like the one on the i7-5820K.

    As we move up the lineup, there's the Core i7-6900K. This is an eight-core chip, with HyperThreading enabling 16 logical CPUs, and with 20 MB L3 cache at its disposal. Its core is clocked at 3.20 GHz, with a rather healthy 3.70 GHz Turbo Boost. At the very top of the lineup, is the Core i7-6950X. Intel's first consumer 10-core chip, with HyperThreading giving your OS a whopping 20 logical CPUs to deal with, this chip features 20 MB L3 cache, and is clocked at 3.00 GHz, with 3.50 GHz Turbo Boost.

    All four chips in the lineup feature 140W TDP, unlocked base-clock multipliers, and will be compatible with existing socket LGA2011v3 motherboards with firmware updates. The low clock speeds on some of these chips right off the bat, could be Intel's way of not letting the rated TDP be higher than 140W. With the right cooling, the target consumers of these chips could overclock these chips.

    Intel is planning to launch these Core i7 "Broadwell-E" chips in the second quarter of 2016."




    The best news is, there will be a Broadwell-E before Skylake-E.

    Don't have to shill for a new board, just upgrade my chip.

    I'll have one of those 8 core badboys thank you very much Intel.

    If it clocks like my 5820K.........BOOM!
     
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  2. Toliandar

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    Would be nice to know if they are going to have PCIE lanes reduced CPU like the 5820K again or if they all are going to be 40 PCIE lanes.
     
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  4. dasa2

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    20ns vs 1866 11-13-13
    compare that to some decent ram like 2400 10-12-12 and there wont be much in it
     
  5. one80

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    I can't wait for the 10C - I wonder if they'll do an unlocked Xeon version ( is like the 5960x and 1680 v3)?
     
  6. glnn_23

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    Not sure if I'll bother with Broadwell -E if it's anything like the 'upgrade' from Sandy-E to Ivy-E on X79.

    I"ll wait for Skylake-E and hopefully see if the high core Xeons have base clock adjustment like Skylake.
     
  7. Pookey

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    I'm in a bit of a pickle here, stuck between a rock and a hard place. The ideal situation would obviously be to hold out until Skylake-E to build my new PC. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. Initially rumours were that Broadwell-E would be out late this year, then early next year and now June 2016.

    Options:

    1. Go with Skylake now and upgrade to Skylake-E when it eventually comes out (looking more and more like 2H 2017)
    2. Go with Haswell-E now and upgrade to Skylake-E when it eventually comes out

    Any advice on what path to take? Waiting until Broadwell-E isn't really an option and would also further devalue a future upgrade to Skylake-E as well.

    The advantage of going with Haswell-E now is that it will simply be a CPU+MB upgrade in 18-24 months time with all other parts reusable and the old CPU+MB will retain some of their value. The main disadvantage is the higher cost. The advantage of going with Skylake now is the cheaper upfront cost but then resale on the parts in 18-24 months is likely to be peanuts.
     
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    A lot of us will be in the same pickle, I think I am going with option 1.

    :thumbup:
     
  9. demiurge3141

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    What are you running now and why is it insufficient for your needs?
     
  10. wintermute000

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    Its pretty simple IMO

    Do you NEED >4 real cores or >32Gb RAM or > 16x PCIE3 lanes.

    If no, Skylake, if yes, Haswell-E.

    Personally I'm waiting for Xeon E3 v5s to become available. 64Gb RAM limit is just the ticket for home server / lab server (don't need > 4 cores). Xeon-D would have been ideal but the 8 core version is an arm and a leg, and 4 cores might as well cheap out and stick with Xeon E3s.
     
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    cheapest skylake i5 + H170 board + cheap ddr4 and your flying for cheap.

    if your only gaming, then this will be more then enough.
     
  12. Pookey

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    Currently I'm running on the X58 platform with dual ATI 5000 series GPU.

    Do I need Skylake-E? Probably not, but like X58, it will last for years without needing an upgrade. I'll be using it as a home lab/server as well as gaming. Getting Skylake-E will allow me to consolidate two seperate PC's in to one and will easily last me 5-6 years.
     
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    Time for some Hexacore Xeon loving?
     
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    So its H1 16 ... any updates?

    :D
     
  15. xtreme2k

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    Do you guys reckon it's too late to get Haswell E now? Given Broadwell E is just several months away and potentially 6950X with 10 cores. However the rumour is that this part will go above USD1000 by a fair amount.

    I am currently using a 2600K for 4 years now and am wishing to upgrade. Going quad to another quad (6700K) seems meh...

    With Broadwell E i7 going to 10c and Xeons going to 22c this is very interesting part for me.
     
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  16. dasa2

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    8 core still $1000 10 core $1500us would be my guess

    lots of people with similar feelings with 2600k looking to upgrade its a shame skylake-e didnt come mid this year nor zen
     
  17. xtreme2k

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    It's a tough one now if as per expectation 10c BW-E will be USD1500 around AUD2350 incl GST then 10c would be $$$

    The only good news is you might get a BW-E 8c at the current 5930K price level at $8xx **wrong info**

    Are they expected to get new x99 boards? Expectations on new chipsets?
     
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    No new chipset until 2017 (Skylake-E).

    The current gen X99 chipset will require a bios update to support the Broadwell-E CPU microcode (I mentioned this in my OP of this thread).

    So X99 will be current until 2017. :thumbup:
     
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    I have had 5960X 3 times since they came out. And having 8 cores is meh.... UNLESS:

    1. You render
    2. You bench
    3. You host VMs <-- EDIT
    4. You care about e-peen factor <-- pathetic reason for those that do.

    So if you use your computer for general use and gaming, you will NOT see benefits having 8 core over 4.
     
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  20. xtreme2k

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    Current system is 2600K/32GB D3-1333/840 Pro 256/GTX 670.

    Sufficient but had this for 4 years so feeling time for the next. Something that will last for another 3-4 years. I will upgrade in between maybe the gfx card as I got a 4K mon now.

    Main reason is when I run a VM giving 2 cores and 8GB there isn't a lot left.

    Goal is to get an 8c system with 64GB this will last me for some time.
     

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