Intel Skylake-X/Kabylake-X (LGA2066) and X299 Chipset Discussion

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  1. OJR

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    So the chip is going back?
     
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    yep for a refund, I would take a replacement if their warranty allowed for more than 1 RMA in total.( in case it did actually die in the future)

    I can't see any obvious reason why its hitting 100 degrees within a few minutes of running. The block isn't even warm to touch. I have removed and re mounted it 3 x times now and used different thermal pastes. The contact patch looks even when removed.

    it ran hot with the air cooler as well but I put that down to it being an air cooler

    still, don't know what im going to replace it with.

    maybe a 7740x I dont really want to go to TRyet as that would most likely mean a new water block which may not be available for months.
     
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    Did I just read that right, Mr Skylake-X is kicking Ryzen's ass is thinking about Threadripper :lol:
     
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    it was a dirty thought we all have them at times.

    but no water blocks and no ordering the 8 core cpu yet so its not an option for me anyway.
     
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    You sure they delidded it properly?

    It kinda sounds like they didn't delid it right or when they 'relidded' it they did it in a sub-optimal way...
     
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    I am not sure that is the only thing I can put it down too but im not willing to void their warranty and remove it to check.
     
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    Ah I see. Hopefully they check that for you when you send it back. It'd be annoying if it's their fault.
     
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    Whelp there goes HEDT taken seriously :p
    Why the hell would you want too, just buy a bloody 7700k and a cheaper 1151 motherboard.
    Shit just buy a new coffeelake setup.

    There's no "upgrade path" from any of those boards :lol:
     
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    I'm hoping Coffee is the 1151 upgrade path for existing chipsets, just as Kaby runs on Z170 or Haswell refresh runs on Haswell, with BIOS updates. I'd love to stick a 6 core Coffee CPU into my Z270i Strix. Its a simple upgrade, just a chip, I can use to hold off and wait till the other platforms are all matured. I can make any upgrade decisions later.
     
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    Nope Coffelake will be 1151 v2, fucking Intel. :mad:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...h-z270-motherboards-says-asrock/#541a07a876a2

    Maybe I mad a mistake supporting Intel this time around just on sheer principle.

    AMD certainly stirred them up, they are flooding the market with CPU's and just competing with themselves.
     
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    I'm not so sure that link actually confirms anything. I'd take the Asrock guy as hedging his bets, and I wouldn't be surprised if BIOS updates could make them work. Note in page 2, the other manufacturers are silent on the subject thus far.

    Coffee is completely pointless as a standalone platform.

    I live in hope :D If I were to buy a new platform, it wouldn't be Coffee, and I think that would apply to pretty much all of us. As an upgrade, it makes sense though.
     
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    I think saying outright no 200 series boards wil not support coffeelake is pretty clear cut

    its a shame that they wont.
     
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    Hmmm...

    every socket produced by intel has only run max two generations of CPU only..

    socket 1366 - Nehalem, Gulftown
    Socket 1156 - Lynnfield
    Socket 1155 - Sandybridge, Ivybridge
    Socket 1150, Haswell (& refresh), Broadwell
    Socket 1151, Skiylake, Kabylake

    the last time.. more than two generations were supported was socket 775,

    Gallatin (one CPU only available) / Prescott / Cedarmill
    then
    Conroe (& Kentfield) / Wolfdale (& Yorkfield)

    Even then... the old chipset generally could not support the newer CPUs without additional circuitary / or revisions to the motherboard..

    I really really doubt Intel will make coffee lake backward compatible with any of the current socket 1151 chipsets..


     
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    That being the case, I can't see myself moving from my 7700K anytime soon. Threadripper looks particularly interesting to me, but just like the others it will no doubt have plenty of teething problems.

    Bang for buck, Ryzen is an easy winner on all counts, but TR and X299 are both way too expensive, and X299 certainly appears to have various issues to be dealt with as yet. I'm looking forward to seeing TR come out, but as an ITX kinda guy, I doubt I'll ever own one unless I bite the bullet and buy a big board. I can't see TR ever making it onto an ITX board :lol:

    If I'm honest, for me and my own purposes, an i3 and onboard graphics would do everything I ask of it. Its only an interest in overclocking that makes me bother ever spending any cash on my computer. So for me, it will be the best overclocking platform that interests me, not necessarily the best all rounder or bang for buck. For at least a decade, that's been Intel, but we won't know enough about that until the dust settles on the new stuff IMO, so my 7700K will stay in its socket if Coffee can't replace it :thumbup: until at least next year.

    I'm not buying yet another board so I can run Coffee as a stopgap.
     
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    Isn't this where Walletripper is supposed to be superior though? They offer all the PCI-E lanes on all CPUs, quad channel RAM, socket support for the next 4 years (or whatever they promised). Sure you might be paying a bit more for the initial investment but it will hopefully last a longer time.
     
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    Yeah.
    But see AMD missed the boat a little with the 1700/1700x/1800x with the PCIe lanes, having less than the entry level Intel Skylake-X chips (7800x/7820x).

    Then again Intel screwed us with the 7820x by taking away the lanes compared to the 6900k..

    AMD giveth and Intel taketh away. :lol:
     
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    that is assuming you can cool the 180w TDP part with 1/3 of the IHS actually in contact with teh cooler

    lol Im expecting these things to run HOT for the reviews pair it with a vega and you wont need any heaters in winter.
     
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    sammy_b0i Laugh it up, fuzzball!

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    Edit: Better suited to the Ryzen thread. :thumbup:
     
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    4 years? X99 lasted 3 years.

    see how long TR4 actually lasts, hoping for a good showing.

    But how can anyone who uses the pc for, games, youtube, ocau, porn, and nothing else, possibly need anything more then a 7700K.

    interesting to see a TR vs x299 vs x99 vs z270, all cpu's stock, gaming @ 1080/1440/4K

    x299 and x399 - would LOVE to play with them, but for the price, yeah nah.
     

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