Is this the end of Firewire?

bah i got you mixed up with someone else there for a second carrots, not sure how

 

I doubt it. Seeing as the announcement was made before major development on Vista had even begun. In fact, when the announcement was made, I think Microsoft would have been developing the original Longhorn.

 

Its not a big deal; - because someone (apple?) will just come up with a better interface.

Whilst this shows the current attitude in computing - freedom = higher market saturation, eventually the technology will just stagnate until something better comes along. It makes no sense to have two ports which work on almost the same basic principle on one computer

 

USB requires a host. firewire doesnt.

ie you can hook a camcorder to another camcorder to record or a recorder without the need of a dedicated host.

ive also found firewire much less hassle then usb, less cpu usage, better speeds although usb is theoretically faster. firewire is also even less driver dependant then usb due to not having a host controller.

i mainly use firewire for camcorder and ext hdds btw.

 

I really only use firewire when using macs, so this won't really effect me. However firewire is great for getting recordings off digital video recorders and such for video editing. I tried the same with USB, and it was noticeably slower retrieving files, and there was also some jumpy scenes after the USB transfer onto a PC.

 

Hello Scott, fancy you being on OCAU

The first person I knew using firewire networking was Dens and he raved about how good it was between his various PCs which I thought was most amusing at the time... I come from an Apple home, Mc by name, Mac by nature

I was into video editing back when Firewire wasnt built into (or readily available for) PCs, and even now, only the decent cameras come with firewire, and for the darm good reasons people have already mentioned.

Harvey Norman were obviously thinking they were on a gold mine when they bought stock of 6 Port firewire hubs, only for them not to sell and end up clearing them for $25 each (I wish i had of got more than 2!) which I have never been able to find again This makes making movies and storing music awesome if you're Laptop based! (also consider the cost per Gig of HDD pre 2001!!)

The advantages of daisy chaining hard drives and video cameras all off one port is also something that USB cannot achieve, and something that is important when you're making videos on the move ... The ability to use ur laptop as a portable firewire drive that any machine can read is fantastic if you want quick file transfers between multiple machines, also if you want to get around Apples copy protection of old

I have not been able to play with firewire 2 (800mbps) unforetunately due to the lack of reasonably priced external HDD caddies which use the framework, but it will be a sad day indeed if IE1394 is ever killed off, simply due to its reliability and consistent performance compared to the other available options.

 

Firewire will be around for a long time yet, all of our cisco switches use firewire to communicate between switches in each cluster

Cheers

Z

 

Whats this about wireless USB?

 

No idea, however sounds good for some things.

 

what model switches you got there Z?

 

USB devices do not have unique IDs

This is an issue if you are using a single server to handle several video cameras or audio devices.

With USB, the numbering changes every time you plug and unplug a device, whereas with Firewire, each device has its own unique firewire ID (just like an Ethernet MAC address), and good software/drivers allow you to identify and apply configuration settings based on a device's firewire ID.

I believe that USB has this capability according to the spec, but it has never been implemented in any hardware or software.

 

sad to see it go.
Ive used a couple of firewire devices and they have allways worked first go.

Unlike usb where things arnt detected properly, drop off for no reason, or flat out refuse to do full speed 2.0 speeds.

The whole "USB highspeed/fullspeed" debarcle really gets on my nerves too.
usb 1.1 "high speed" aint high. or speed. in any form.

 

Apple tried that with Firewire it didn't work , maybe they will learn there lesson next time and not charge a royalty fee.