Laptop - faster processor/more RAM or SSD?

Discussion in 'Portable & Small Form Factor' started by Stooge007, May 19, 2017.

  1. breech

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    Check out Asus F555U refurbs from IJK or similar, one of the i7 variants, 8gb. swap mechanical hdd to ssd if not provided. My machine was in perfect condition, and came with upgrades. only con: screen is a bit pixelated, but you get that on cheap wide laptops.

    aim for > i7-6500U

    i think this is close to what i got.
     
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  2. Narcoticx2

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    Okay, you need to give us more information. You're trickling bits to us.

    What i3? What laptops are you looking at?
    How much ram?
    What hard drives?

    We're spending the time here to help you, please do the same for us and give us a bit more information to work with?
     
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    Buy a surface pro. Claim it back on tax as a depreciating asset.
     
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    Stooge007

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    sorry

    looking at this https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop...d-100s-14-pentium-laptop-100s-11br-sl14ip100s @ $547 - 14", N3700, 4gb, 128gb SSD, Win10

    has the N3700

    or something like this https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/hp-14-core-i5-laptop-14-am080tu-hp14am080t @ $697 - 14", i5, 4gb, 128gb SSD, Win10

    but this is i5

    also considering a refurb like this http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/182487594642?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT @ $549 plus $15 post - 13.3", i5, 4gb, 128gb SSD, Win10

    again, an i5

    or this one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201792582578?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT @ $550 (20% off graysonline at the moment) - 15.6", i7, 4gb, 750gb HDD

    only thing that is turning me off this one is it's not Win10, plus i'd need to upgrade to SSD

    EDIT -

    or this http://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-de...gb-ssd-win-10-12.5-1366x768-laptop-cheap.html with an upgrade to 8gb for $46 extra looks good for my needs? ($365 - 12.5", i3, 8gb, 128gb SSD)

    don't need an i5 i don't think, pretty much ticks all the boxes, but slightly smaller screen @ 12.5"

    or this http://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-de...56gb-ssd-win-7-14-1920x1080-laptop-cheap.html but only has Win7 ($575 - 14", i7, 8gb, 256gb SSD)

    or this looks good http://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-hp...1ghz-8gb-180gb-ssd-win-7-14-laptop-cheap.html but again only Win7 ($469 - 14", i7, 8gb, 180gb SSD)

    this is probably leading the race right now http://www.reboot-it.com.au/used-to...z-4gb-256gb-ssd-win-10-13.3-laptop-cheap.html ($365 - 13.3", i5, 8gb, 256gb SSD, Win10)
     
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  5. Bold Eagle

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    You haven't noted the Gen of the CPU's in your assessment - that makes a massive difference!

    I wouldn't buy a 1st Gen - no-one would - good effort but lacking the most critical detail!

    Frankly I could build a NUC cheaper than your 'best' suggestion with the J3455 CPU in it (NUC would need to be plugged into a TV or monitor).

    Buggered If I would pay $319 for a refurbed 'govt Laptop' with a 3rd Gen CPU - that's worth $10.
     
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  6. theyesmen

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    The only problem I see with SSD generation laptops is the limited space as opposed to traditional mechanical hard drives.

    It really comes down to what you are using the system for. I have a work supplied laptop and the SSD drive in it is only 32GB. Tiny. Windows 10 installation does chew up most of the space on it, but it still has more than enough free space for some office files for work on the go. For everything else, I just plug in the external hard drive which gives you the instant 1TB boost needed for more serious work.

    For myself, I like a careful balance between SSD <> CPU <> RAM. Get a nice balance between all three major area of components and you will have a nice performing system. If you focus on one specific area of components, then you're really going to notice the part of the system that is not so fast and will just result in you getting annoyed all the time.
     
  7. Narcoticx2

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    From your suggested usage, and from the specs, either of the refurbs will get you through. 4GB ram will probably be enough, too, so don't stress about getting that upgraded.

    The i3 4010U cpu is fine, geared towards decent performance but also good battery life.

    The i5 3320m is a standard mobile processor, so unless the portege has a bigger battery then you're going to get less life out of it. It is, however, a fair bit faster.

    4GB ram gets me through fine at work with Xero, MYOB (cloud and local), spreadsheets, all other office apps, emails etc.

    Either SSD will be fine.
     
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    Stooge007

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    need it to be mobile, to take out to clients, so a NUC probly won't suffice

    won't be storing anything big on the SSD, everything's "in the cloud" :lol:

    thanks mate, think i'll just go for the Portege i suppose

    may as well upgrade to 8gb, only $45 more

    batteries seem to be fairly readily available off ebay too, for ~ $30-40 so that's no biggie

    cheers all :)
     
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    Stooge007

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    so the Toshiba Portege R930 arrived yesterday (i5 3320m, 250gb SSD, 8gb RAM, Win10 64)

    only got a chance to have a little play last night

    physical condition is pretty good, only minor gripe is the "R" key on the keyboard is on a bit of a tilt, but still works 100%

    in terms of speed, it's plenty fast enough for what i need it for

    any must have programs for a new laptop?

    anything else i should test thoroughly? they have a change of mind policy, subject to a 15% restocking fee

    cheers all
     
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    How's the battery life?

    I'd give it a clean install of windows 10 and then hit up ninite.com for your installers and runtimes
     
  11. Bold Eagle

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    Agree with a fresh install and fully patched.

    Late edit: Security I use (only ever the free versions):
    - Malwarebytes,
    - SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition,
    - SpywareBlaster, with
    - Windows Defender.

    For PDF I like Foxit Reader over Adobe.
     
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    one thing you may or may not know i never, ever Defrag a SSD, it will shorten its lifespan considerably. not that i think you can on windows 10 anymore
     
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    Stooge007

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    not sure on battery life, haven't really played with it too much yet

    not sure it came with a Windows product key, so not sure about a fresh install

    or can you access the product key from within Win10 itself???

    thanks, will check them out

    thanks, i didn't know that!
     
  14. Narcoticx2

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    Hit start, press the little settings button (it's a cog), then click update and security, then activation, it'll tell you if it's with a key, or a digital licence.

    If it's a digital licence, you'll be able to download the windows 10 installer from microsoft for your exact version, and then reinstall it and it'll reactivate automagically.
     
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    Stooge007

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    digital licence, now linked to a new microsoft account

    thanks :)
     
  16. ae00711

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    best performance? sure.
    huge tangible difference? no.

    utter bullshit.
    there is sweet jack all difference gen to gen, why you think everyone dislikes how intel drags its feet year after year??

    :thumbdn:

    @Stooge007: right click the SSD and un-check indexing... also, HerdProtect for anti-everything
     
  17. Bold Eagle

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    True comment apart from the Intel 1st to 2nd gen - no massive difference since.

    Herd Protect is also very good.
     
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    Stooge007

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    just ran powercfg /batteryreport

    design capacity 65,664 mWh
    full charge capacity 59,121 mWh

    not bad
     
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    Save a few bucks and upgrade the hard drive yourself!
     
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    Stooge007

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    i was buying new, not upgrading

    and ended up with a refurb with 256gb SSD anyway
     

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