Mini-ITX mobo with Chinese-made CPU

Discussion in 'Other CPUs and chipsets' started by stmok, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. stmok

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    I didn't know where the heck to put this, but since its Mini-ITX (a form factor brought in by VIA), I'll throw it here.

    China targets world chip market, but could face licensing trouble
    http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9828238951.html

    Its not surprising that the CPU architecture used is based on someone else's idea. We all know the Chinese (technology wise) are well known for "reverse engineering" (copying) ideas or goods. Other examples include their version of the Tomahawk cruise missile (I sh*t you not, it looks identical!), cheap imitations of clothing, watches, etc.

    I don't doubt that China can make a CPU, but the problem here is, the Godson-2 CPU (Dragon) is MIPS-like...Unfortunately, MIPS Technologies didn't license the use of "MIPS-like" architecture, so this Chinese made CPU is very likely gonna run into some legal issues. (MIPS architecture is used on well known Linksys and ASUS routers that use embedded versions of Linux)

    It would be interesting if China can make an x86 CPU that is good enough to compete against AMD or Intel. (According to the article, its manufacturing capability that's holding them back when it comes to making any CPU.)
     
  2. Goose1981

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    Hmm.. i think you are right in that they will struggle to achieve a similar quality as AMD or intel..

    If they DO achieve it however.. the pricing will be very low i imagine.

    Interesting one to watch..
     
  3. MadOnion87

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    i'm not aware that china has cruise missles??
    i remember that pos cpu they made has performance of a pentium 90 or something
    when they made it they were full happy and celebrating, i'm like whats there to be happy about when they managed something Intel did 10 years ago :rolleyes:
    dont get me wrong as i'm chinese myself
     
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    I'm Chinese too, but if you "think in chinese" (view it from their angle), its about national pride.

    Look how they put a man in space...Recall what that particular person said.

    As for their military? Check out the bombers, AWACS planes, and other toys they acquired via purchase or license to make (mainly from Russia)...It'll freak you out.

    Anyway, if I was able to build a CPU, I would be satisfied with the accomplishment, but I wouldn't be celebrating like if it was New Years Eve!
     
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  5. MadOnion87

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    sorry i dont meant to turn this into some kind of flaming thread
    what i meant was yeah its cool if i can make a cpu like that, but i know i will still have a long way to go
     
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    I'm sure if they wanted to....they could round up some very intelligent people to work on this project from a population of 1.25 billion!!!
     
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    more info:
    "The Godson-2 is similar to the MIPS R10000, introduced in 1995. These similarities could raise some controversial intellectual-property issues, because MIPS Technologies has no connection with Godson and hasn't licensed any technology to the Godson designers," the firm stated.

    .. so it's a 10 year old design.. I don't think it's anything to sweat over.. The russian processors are more of a concern but I don't know much about them at all.


    http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Mar/bch20040317024311.htm

    posted 2:33pm EST Wed Mar 17 2004 - submitted by Bob LaFever

    http://www.geek.com/procspec/elbrus/e2k.htm

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/07/intel_uses_russia_military_technologies/

    http://www.hi-tech.ournet.md/elbrus_e2k.html

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/news621.html

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,28679,00.asp


    http://slashdot.org/articles/99/07/18/149206.shtml

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    Apparently the new Russian E2K computer is being used to crack distributed.net's RC5 contest! The user has come out on top the past few days with 2.7GK/s, more than 6 times the keyrate of second place. His message states "Russian Elbrus E2K is REAL POWER!" "
     
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  9. chiu.co

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    With the commoditisation of computer technology, it is not surprising at all to see the Chinese enter this arena. It's showing the way of things to come, imo.
     

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