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Mozilla exec urges Firefox users ditch Google for Bing

Discussion in 'Networking, Telephony & Internet' started by GGG-2, Dec 11, 2009.

  1. GGG-2

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    Source : Mozilla exec urges Firefox users ditch Google for Bing

    Interesting to see the relationship between Mozilla and Google become so strained. I must admit I'm starting to dislike google with these stance on a few things.
     
  2. Tara Erin

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    Although I can see where he is coming from, for me the subtle privacy abuses are what makes Google work so well and I'm yet to be convinced that the cons outweigh the pros. People love to be paranoid about things and the fact that somebody might somehow find out what they might have searched for once on Google 2 years ago seems to bother people more than it should. Are the people who worry about these things also worried about talking in public in case they are overheard?

    It will be interesting to see how their relationship progresses in the future.
     
  3. IKT

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    I'm not to worried, the only thing that slightly bothers me is how much they're taking over my desktop and internets!

    I spend most of my time either searching google, google maps to find stuff in the city, reading gmail, watching stuff on youtube, all in chrome/chromium browser which has become an instant hit in the linux world..

    They know what I like to watch, what subjects I'm interested in, who I'm friends with, where I'm going, and most importantly my browser of choice!

    tin foil hat time...
     
  4. scruff

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    Google very much offer you a way to see what info is being stored about you and a way to purge it.

    Not seeing the problem here.

    I , for one, hail our google overlords.
     
  5. huskybusky

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    How is that possible? i'd like to see my google profile :p
     
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    It had to happen. They are simply way too powerful now and the comments from Google CEO Eric Schmidt really made me stop and think carefully.

    I for one will be taking the advice from FireFox and using Bing for search from now on :thumbup:
     
  8. SenorGrande

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    Sadly, bing isn't very good. In fact its pretty crap. Yahoo... does anyone use that anymore? Why would anyone want to use Yahoo's search engine?

    But bing is just not as good as google. Good luck getting people to use an inferior search engine for privacy sake - these same people are the ones who are probably willing to have some $15/hr security guard stick a gloved hand up their arse if it means the 'terrywrists' don't get on their plane.
     
  9. scruff

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    I personally find that Bing's search results are very very poor, so I will never use it. Plus their website is bloaty and crap. But if you want to use it, by all means.

    Yahoo Mail is still the world's most popular webmail, so I guess they have a userbase just from that.

    The Japanese girl I sit next to at work uses Yahoo all the time. I asked her about it once and she said that the results in Japanese are better than the ones from Google, so maybe the Asian markets are Yahoo's target market?
     
  10. cs-cam

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    I'm sorry but I just don't get what the big deal is about online privacy. If someone could give me a real life example how Google knowing my information could bad I'd really like to hear it.
     
  11. Bangers

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    I'll give you an example and let you extrapolate.

    You apply for a job at a leading online marketing company. Let's call them Giggle. The Senior Director of SRE's (Support Engineers) is a devout Christine and upon standard applicant search processes stumbles upon your overly aggressive 'midget cheerleader porn' searches. If you're lucky your girlfriends search for 'abortions' and 'morning after pills' aren't detected.

    I do see where you're coming from though. There is a high majority of Gen-Facebook/Myspace who couldn't care less. I can't help but feel there carefreeness is fueled by a lack of understanding of Information Security than anything else.
     
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    Okay, so if you've got something to hide then it can be a problem. I get that porn is legal and shouldn't influence hiring decisions however people don't wear "I ♥ Fisting" shirts to job interviews and for good reason. I get your point but I still don't agree that you've given me a reason why people should stop using Google. Maybe just a reason why people shouldn't do stupid stuff online.
     
  13. Joe Public

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    He's a cross-dresser?
     
  14. Bangers

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    I just woke up :Pirate:

    i wasn't trying to convince you to stop using Giggle! I just giving you the example you asked for.
     
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    Ive noticed people go ultra-fanboi when it comes to google and wont hear a bad thing about them which makes people overlook these obvious security issues, Its not a huge problem now but with more people using wave and calender etc there is alot of information at stake.

    All it will take to become that video is someone offering Google enough money or some cocky marketing guy to decide to sell said information.


    I have found the exact opposite, There searches seem on par with Google for their usual stuff, and their site inst bloated at all then again I don't use 56k either.

    Not to mention their version of street view has totally one upped Google with not only taking pictures but laser scanning the surroundings for full 3d models.

    It all comes down to the age old debate if you are an upstanding citizen then you have nothing to hide and big brother everywhere shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    In that case, may I ask when was the last time you masturbated? Who/what did you think about when you did it? Some things are perfectly legal and normal, and yet you still wouldn't want them on a billboard outside your house :)

    Google have shown with their dealings in China that they'll acquiesce to government requests - and gladly let them in on anything their users do, which can have any number of downsides.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance but all this talk of hiding your midget porn searches etc, how exactly does one get hold of another persons google information?
     
  18. alvarez

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    You pay google for it, they sell it for marketing purposes.
    In theory someone with ulterior motives could get it through unauthorised access to Googles systems or disgruntled employees etc although thats a rsik with any information system banks etc.

    Not saying I agree with it, its just the stance google is taking, besides I do my porn searching with bings excellent video search ;)
     
  19. Quan-Time

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    I for one dont have a gmail account, not use any of their other services, the only thing i use is goggle search engine.

    Now i understand it "remembers" my searches and what not.. But seriously.. Who doesnt block ads nower days, and its not like "oh, quan searched for THIS.. OMG".. they know some ip addy did it, but they cant exactly build up a cache on me. My router reboots so much my ip changes like twice a day.

    And its not possible (far as i know, please prove me wrong here) that they can associate that data with a name / who i am. All the search engine does it record "trends". It realises some news post about Michael Jackson gets released saying hes dead, and then all of a sudden the phrase "Michael Jacksons death" goes thru the roof.
    Its no secret that google monitor traffic like this, and sell it to marketing places, or use it for themselves. That life. I hate it yes, but if you use ANY service its going to happen. in some form.
     
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