Nikon D600 - An entry level camera FULL FRAME?!

Looks normal. You have a DX mode inner lit up bars in the VF showing you where it will crop it.

 

If a D600 comes out as more of a D700/FX replacement than a D300s one, I reckon $2500 - $2800 AUD.

Would make a decision pretty difficult for me between it and the D800/E.
Much prefer the AF drive in case of an old lens going cheap but then again 75MB NEF's, ouch.

EDIT: Oh the new specs have an AF motor included?

 

If it's the same 39-point AF from the D7000 then no thanks, whatever the price. However, it should be quite nice for video for whoever is into that sort of thing.

 

What is wrong with the D7k AF? I have had a D7k for over a year and never had any problems with AF. The only thing I hate about my D7k is the ISO performance/lack thereof... and the fact it is a crop sensor.

A cheap FF would be a nice upgrade for someone like me (I would love a D800 but can't justify the price).

 

140 files.. 7.09gb..

 

who cares, i wouldn't mind a FF camera having one AF point if the price was right.

 

I think the iso performance of the d7000 is AWESOME.. it's a crop so I'm not sure what you're comparing it to

those whinging about the AF need not worry, Nikon already have you sorted; there's the d800...

 

The most AF points I've ever had on a camera is 11, and I honestly don't think I'd ever need more than that. I'm not sure how people struggle so hard with 30+ points.

 

Why? What's wrong with the AF system/points on a D7k?

 

Comparing to my mates D700 I often go out shooting with him, one time we were taking some waterfall shots at dusk deep in a valley - we were both using B+W 10 stop ND filters - I was shooting ISO1600 @ 80s, f/5.6 or so and he was doing ISO200 @ 5s, f/8 or so [maybe not exact but it was something like this!]... and his images were nearly twice as bright as mine

That instance (and a few others) made me want full frame... crop is a crock!

 

what i don't even

 

D7000's 39-pt AF isn't even close to the D300/700's 51-pt in my experience. It really struggles in low light and in anything but ideal conditions is noticeably slower.

One of the main reasons I still have the D300s but let go of the D7000. This is all relative I suppose.

 

+1. Little to no sense was made that day.

 

I can pull the EXIF data if you want. I do remember I was shooting at silly ISO and for about 10x longer than him. We'll see how bad my memory is tonight

 

Dude, you're just about to embarrass yourself...

 

You weren't using an ND filter were you?

 

There is something wrong with your camera, lens or ND filters then.

In that situation the D700 would receive ~8 stops less light than the D7K if my calculations are correct. That has nothing to do with full frame vs crop.

 

Agreed. It's not about the number of af points but the speed and low light focus. D7k really struggles compared to even the ones in the d300

Shame really, cause I was hoping that the af would be the update to change

 

Yeah, I should've been clearer about it not having anything to do with the number of points. I expect Nikon will say it's improved from the D7000 just like the D800 is supposedly better than the D700 even though for the most part, it isn't.

Not to mention the metering, despite what Nikon says, it still misbehaves like the D90 and even D80 before it. Yes, you can get used to it, but when switching back and forth between the D700 and D7k it can be frustrating. So it will be interesting to see where this supposed D600 inherits it's metering system from.

 

OK so the difference wasn't quite as bad as I had (poorly) remembered - but it is still dramatic - the D7000 image has had the crap brightened out of it in lightroom (it was basically dark) and it has significant ISO noise/grain visible around the water... the D700 image was effectively untouched (sans the vignette).


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D7000: f/5.6, ISO640, +5 EV, 30s


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D700: f/10, ISO500, +1/3 EV, 30s

So yeah, I still stand by my viewpoint that a cheap FF would be awesome Crop sensors need to die in hell.