Ok just want to alert people on here about the Aorus 2080ti waterforce card. TLDR: Do not buy it I ended up selling my XC Ultra and the Ek block/backplate on the forums a week ago so I could buy a Custom pcb card. I bought the waterforce card from PCCG and I would not recommend this to anyone. Has several flaws and poor build quality. Only positive is that it has the best RGB and looks of aany card out there ? 1. Block is not user serviceable, all screws are hidden behind the aluminium plate covering the plexi. Its glued in hard so might not be removable. 2. Being fully opaque and not serviceable means you wont be able to see any clogging in the microfins which will eventually happen and increase ur temps. When it happens you will have to RMA it.. 3. Poor acrylic quality, the plexi they used felt a bit cheap, I have been using gpu blocks since the GTX 580/590 cards. 4. Backplate is flimsy and cheap again , its provides almost no structural rigidity to the card. They also dont use enough thermal pads under it. 5. The right end of the card is not bolted into the card and the backplate, so it just hangs off and if u grab the card on the right hand side (power connector side) it will flex the plexi into the card because there are no screws holding it. 6. The contact between GPU and memory modules is not as tight as with EK blocks, they use 1mm pads instead of .5mm , one positive here is the cold plate touching the gpu die is a lot larger so it makes full contact. 7. Block has no jetplate, just microfins so there is no control over the flow over the gpu die. The thermal paste application was good however. 8.Higher temps than my reference card with EK vector block/backplate using 380W bios vs 366W Bios on the waterforce. so instead of 43-48c it would be 48-55c on waterforce. 9. Overclocks were around the same 2100Mhz, probably a limit because of 4k resolution ? I have no idea but Memory OC was a lot lower, instead of 1000Mhz it could only go upto 750Mhz. Finally I found some microcracks around one of the screws on the block so I had to RMA it and picked up the MSI seahawk EK instead. Seahawk EK has been great so far. Same oc again and I can do 750Mhz eazy on the memory, haven't pushed further. It has Samsung memory modules. Build quality is a lot higher, The backplate is really thick (3mm instead of 1.5mm) Plexi on the block is thicker too. and temps are not as great as EK vector but 3-4c lower than waterforce.