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So..Are You Actually Going To Get One?

  1. Yes, GTX 280 For Me!!

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  2. Yes, GTX 260 For Me!!

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  3. No, Too Expensive..

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  4. No, I'm Happy To See What ATI Have Coming..

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  5. Other..

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  1. DiGiTaL MoNkEY

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    Expected Launch Dates:

    Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 Launch = RELEASED Click Here for Review Listing (Stock Available)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 Launch = RELEASED Click Here for Review Listing (Stock Available)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 Rev 2.0 = RELEASED

    Please Keep Nvidia 9-Series Discussion In This Thread: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=631796

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    GeForce GTX 280 Specifications:

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    Process: 65nm
    Core Clock: 602MHz
    Shader Clock: 1296MHz
    Memory Clock: 1107MHz (2214MHz)
    Memory Type: GDDR3 (0.8 ns)
    Memory interface: 512-bit
    Memory capacity: 1024MB
    Stream Processor Units: 240
    Standard Shader Model: 4.0
    Standard DirectX Version: DirectX 10 Support
    Video playback technology: PureVideo HD Technology
    Interface: PCI-Express 2.0 (Backward Compatible)
    Card Length: Approximately 10.5" Inches Long
    SLI Support: Yes, 2-Way and 3-Way SLI
    Other Technologies: OpenGL 2.1, PhysX Ready, CUDA Technology
    Power Connector(s): 8-Pin & 6-Pin PCI-E Connector
    MSRP: $649USD | StaticICE HERE | PriceSpy HERE


    Power Supply: (Recommended By Nvidia, You Can Get Away With Less)

    • A GeForce GTX 280 requires you to have a 550 Watt power supply unit at minimum if you use it in a high-end system. That power supply needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 40 Amps available on the 12 volts rails.

    • A second GeForce GTX 280 requires you to have a 800 Watt power supply unit at minimum if you use it in a high-end system. That power supply needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 55 Amps available on the 12 volts rails.

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    GeForce GTX 260 Specifications:

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    Process: 65nm
    Core Clock: 576MHz
    Core Identifier: G200-100-A2
    Shader Clock: 1242MHz
    Memory Clock: 999MHz (1998MHz)
    Memory Type: GDDR3
    Memory interface: 448-bit
    Memory capacity: 896MB
    Stream Processor Units : 192
    Texture Units : 64
    Standard Shader Model: 4.0
    Standard DirectX Version: DirectX 10 Support
    Video playback technology: PureVideo HD Technology
    Interface: PCI-Express 2.0 (Backward Compatible)
    Card Length: Approximately 10.5" Inches Long
    SLI Support: Yes, 2-Way and 3-Way SLI
    Other Technologies: OpenGL 2.1, PhysX Ready, CUDA Technology
    Power Connector(s): 6-Pin & 6-Pin PCI-E Connector
    MSRP: $399USD | StaticICE HERE | PriceSpy HERE


    GeForce GTX 260 Rev 2.0 Specifications:

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    Process: 65nm
    Core Clock: 576MHz
    Core Identifier: G200-103-A2
    Shader Clock: 1242MHz
    Memory Clock: 999MHz (1998MHz)
    Memory Type: GDDR3
    Memory interface: 448-bit
    Memory capacity: 896MB
    Stream Processor Units : 216
    Texture Units : 72
    Standard Shader Model: 4.0
    Standard DirectX Version: DirectX 10 Support
    Video playback technology: PureVideo HD Technology
    Interface: PCI-Express 2.0 (Backward Compatible)
    Card Length: Approximately 10.5" Inches Long
    SLI Support: Yes, 2-Way and 3-Way SLI
    Other Technologies: OpenGL 2.1, PhysX Ready, CUDA Technology
    Power Connector(s): 6-Pin & 6-Pin PCI-E Connector


    Power Supply: (Recommended By Nvidia, You Can Get Away With Less)

    • A GeForce GTX 260 requires you to have a 500 Watt power supply unit at minimum if you use it in a high-end system. That power supply needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 38 Amps available on the 12 volts rails.

    • A second GeForce GTX 260 requires you to have a 700 Watt power supply unit at minimum if you use it in a high-end system. That power supply needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 50 Amps available on the 12 volts rails.

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    Specification Comparison 280/260/3870X2/9800GX2/8800 Ultra:

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    Table Courtesy of Tom's Hardware

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    Pre-Launch Posts/Details/Photos Etc:


    Other Bits And Pieces Around The Net
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8964831&postcount=882 Nvidia changes GT200 Dates Again
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8964831&postcount=882 Nvidia Medusa Tech Demo Screenshots
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8948268&postcount=806 Nvidia GTX 200 GPU’s : Architecture Improvement Document
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8942936&postcount=740 Misc Press Slides, Die Shots, Power Usage
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8940331&postcount=694 280/260 GTX Performance Comparison, 3DMark Vantage
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8913702&postcount=531 GIGABYTE lets slip NVIDIA's next-gen graphics cards
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8903906&postcount=471 Possible GeForce GTX 280 & GTX 260 Gaming Performance vs. HD 3870X2
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8899432&postcount=431 Leaked Official Slide RRP For 280 & 260 GTX
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8887051&postcount=269 [Quick Summary] GT200 and RV770 Specifications
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8882166&postcount=226 Official frequencies of GeForce GTX 200 Series
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8872934&postcount=127 Nvidia GTX260 & 280 Revealed - Clocks & Details
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8868440&postcount=102 First water cooling blocks for GT200
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8861333&postcount=65 Geforce 280/260 GTX comparison with G80/G92
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8859999&postcount=53 Leaked Spec's & Feature Details 280/260 GTX
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8858767&postcount=27 GeForce GTX 280/260, no DX 10.1 but triple-SLI
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8856863&postcount=15 Nvidia's GT200 chip to pack about 1 billion transistors into 576 mm2
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8835835&postcount=4 More GT 200 Info Leaking
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8686827&postcount=2597 Nvidia confirms GT-200 with 1 billion transistors

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    Specific Posts Related to the GTX 280
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8978011&postcount=1121 Benchmark Reviews GTX 280 Review
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8976681&postcount=1084 German Nvidia GTX 280 Review
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8974237&postcount=1035 VR-Zone GTX 280 Preview + Benchmarks (Preliminary)
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8967643&postcount=915 3DMark Vantage of Single GTX 280 with QX9770 @ 4GHz
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8964831&postcount=882 3-way SLI GTX 280 Scores P21350 In 3DMark Vantage
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8962598&postcount=846 Nvidia 280GTX Eyecandy SLI & Tri-SLI Promo Pictures
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8952971&postcount=816 Geforce GTX 280 Processing Architecture
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8952971&postcount=816 Vantage, 3DM06, Vantage Crysis Performance of the Geforce GTX 280/260
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8946330&postcount=761 GTX 280 Crysis 1920*1200 VH Average FPS
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8937111&postcount=661 GeForce GTX 280 Card Stripped Naked
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8933269&postcount=643 GTX 280 DEMO platform; GPU-Z V 0.2.3 and RiverTuner 2.09 Used.
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8923843&postcount=615 GPU-Z Photo Nvidia Geforce GTX 280
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8915319&postcount=541 Detailed Geforce GTX 280 Pictures
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8914951&postcount=536 GeForce GTX 280 GPU-Z Screenshot & pics of GTX280 in a case up and running
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8884935&postcount=254 Nvidia Video Encoding Demo (Press Day)
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8868440&postcount=102 GeForce GTX280 folds three times faster than Radeon HD 3870
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8868183&postcount=100 Nvidia GTX 280 Cooler Photos
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8864259&postcount=85 8800 GTX PCB and GTX 280 PCB Comparison
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8863677&postcount=76 GTX 280 board photos, heatsink removed
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8858123&postcount=18 Here is a shot of the Chip w/heatspreader
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8854303&postcount=10 GeForce GTX 280 Tiny Board Shots
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8841799&postcount=5 More Spec's Revealed GTX 280 GTX 260

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    Specific Posts Related to the GTX 260
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8952971&postcount=816 Vantage, 3DM06, Vantage Crysis Performance of the Geforce GTX 280/260
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8922605&postcount=608 Nvidia GTX 260 Press Slide Details
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8875666&postcount=156 NVIDIA Editors Day 2008
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8841799&postcount=5 More Spec's Revealed GTX 280 GTX 260
    http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=8822399&postcount=2901 More CAD Drawings for 280 GTX and 260GTS (3D)
     
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  2. mr_mordred2095

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    Nvidia GeForce GTX 200 Series Discussion

    Port your links of info!

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=19862&catid=2
    http://r800.blogspot.com/2008/05/information-leaking-radeon-hd-4800-vs.html
    http://hkepc.com/?id=1165&fs=c1h Not English - Has numbers though.



     
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  3. legionnaire

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    Nvidia GeForce GTX 280 Launch: 17th June 2008
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 260 Launch: 17th June 2008

    These are the expecting specifications of these 2 cards, may change closer to release and I will post more info when it becomes available:

    GeForce GTX 280

    • Core Clock: 602 MHz
    • Process: 65nm
    • Shader Clock: 1296 MHz
    • Memory Clock: 1107 MHz
    • Memory Type: GDDR3
    • Memory interface: 512-bit
    • Memory capacity: 1024Mb
    • Stream Processor Unit / Unified shader number: 240
    • Shader Model: 4.0
    • DirectX Version: 10.0
    • OpenGL: 2.1
    • Interface: PCIe 2.0
    • SLI Support: tri-SLI support
    • RRP: $649USD

    GeForce GTX 260

    • Core Clock: 576 MHz
    • Process: 65nm
    • Shader Clock: 1242 MHz
    • Memory Clock: 1000 MHz
    • Memory Type: GDDR3
    • Memory interface: 448-bit
    • Memory capacity: 896Mb
    • Stream Processor Unit / Unified shader number: 192
    • Shader Model: 4.0
    • DirectX Version: 10.0
    • OpenGL: 2.1
    • Interface: PCIe 2.0
    • SLI Support: tri-SLI support
    • RRP: $449USD

    55nm revision D10U chip will come later.
     
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  4. FLB

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    More Specs revealed

    With just one month until their release, the GT200-powered GeForce GTX 280 and 260 have finally let us into their hearts and minds for a closer look at what makes them tick. The things seen reveal the highest-end board, the GTX 280 as being a product with a 512-bit interface, 1024 MB of GDDR3 memory, SLI and PCI-Express 2.0 (but no tri-SLI), DirectX 10 and OpenGL 2.1 support, PhysX readiness which is yet to be demonstrated and a GPU with no less than 240 working Stream Processors. This beast will be cooled by this and should cost over $500.

    The more affordable GT200 card, the GTX 260 has 'only' 192 Stream Processors, a 448-bit memory interface and 896 MB of GDDR3 memory. Expect the GTX 260 to be about $100 cheaper than the GTX 280. Both card will be officially introduced around June 18.

    http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=19891&catid=2

    No Tri-SLI??? that was unexpected, surely Nvidia would want to utilised the 3 slots on a 780i and 790i ultra boards.... maybe they relised tri-SLI has no real benefits over dual-SLI which is true.

    ive updated my second post mr_mordred :)
     
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  6. Mau1wurf1977

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    Still no DX 10.1?

    This is bad news for anyone as DX 10.1 has some nice performance benefits...
     
  7. Mau1wurf1977

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    I will be waiting for a die shrink later this year. These cards will be super hot.
     
  8. Bullseye81

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    Likewise. There isnt much apart from Crysis that the 8800GTX cant handle right now. Wait a bit longer and get the GT 280 refresh
     
  9. Utetopia

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    And The Witcher. I have managed to test this game with an 8600GT, X1950 Pro & am now using a 9800GTX. Even with my CPU overclocked to 3.8GHz, there is a LOT of lag in the video intensive areas. This may well be fixed when they re-release the GOTY or Deluxe Edition when it comes out in the coming months. I'd love to see it bundle with one of the new video cards. :)
     
  10. FLB

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    Here are some shots of the GTX280 apparently.

    They are very small so hard to tell, but if legit - bigger pictures are sure to follow soon.

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    Source: http://www.pczilla.net/en/post/13.html

    And if legit, it shows that the GTX280 series will Tri-Sli.
     
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  11. Mau1wurf1977

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    Wow massive GPU. It's huge...

    It also shows the 6 and 8 pin power plugs. Could be legit. Launch date is pretty soon, so yea this could be the real deal.
     
  12. FLB

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    And I noticed it does have 16 memory chips (8 front 8 back), that shows proof of a 512bit bus.
     
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    Like the new naming scheme.

    Hope they shrink the cards size its pretty bulky.

    Also where is the DX10.1/SM4.1 ?

    Reminds me of the huge Shader war of 2003 where the FX5 series was SM2.0A and the ATI 9 series was SM2.0B

    Common NVIDIA catch up, we do not want another FX5 or GF MX :sick:

    Nice 512bit memory bus though.

    Good news none the less, progress !
     
  14. Whisper

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    So, are these the cards the 9000 series should have been?
     
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    More news:

    "Zagreb (Croatia) – While travelling in Europe we stumbled across more details about Nvidia’s upcoming graphics card, which surely looks more and more like a processing monster to us.

    The upcoming GeForce GTX 260/280 GPUs are based on the GT200 (NV60) core and will be built using a 65 nm manufacturing process at TSMC. However, we heard that not many chips will actually fit on a 300 mm wafer, since Nvidia has come up with a huge die measuring 24 x 24 mm, resulting in a die area size of 576 mm2.

    This area is almost 100 mm2 larger than Nvidia’s previous 90 nm high-end GPU (G80) and a consequence of 16 processing blocks (G80 came with nine blocks, eight were enabled for GTX models, six for GTS versions) and a new 512-bit memory controller, which replaces the old 384-bit model (the GTS260 will integrate a 448-bit version).

    The current G92 or GeForce 8800GT/8800GTS512/9800GTX/9800GX2 CPUs are built in a 65 nm process and end up at a die size of 330 mm2. The original G80 (NV50) GPU, better known as the GeForce 8800, was manufactured in 90 nm and delivered a die size of 484 mm2.

    With its new GPU generation, Nvidia is going to continue on the safe route and plan with enough spare transistors for 240 shader units (actually, 240FP+240MADD). Just like ATI's graphics parts and Sony Cell processor, this should not be considered odd. Keep in mind that the G92 chip debuted with 112 shader units and, after production had ramped up, Nvidia unlocked all the shader and texture units to create GeForce 8800GTS512, followed by the 9800GTX and GX2.

    The same will be the case with the GeForce GTX 280 and 260. The GPU will have 15 processing units (240 shader processors) available on the GTX280, while the GTX260 will come with 12 units for a grand total of 192 shader processors. This may be an indication for the complexity involved in manufacturing such a part – especially if you think about the fact that Nvidia has a tradition of designing its GPUs completely in software and a massive supercomputer system in Santa Clara, California. The company always has been proud of the fact that every GeForce chip you buy essentially is “first silicon.”

    Our sources state that the manufacturing cost of the GT200 die is somewhere between $100 to $110 per piece. It is pricey and you will be getting a lot more processing logic inside this core than with any other semiconductor part in the short history of the IT industry.

    Typically, the CPU die spends about 66-80% of its real estate on cache and the remainder on logic; in the world of GPUs it is vice versa. Our sources indicated that the number of transistors on the GT200 will settle somewhere in the neighborhood of 1 billion – north of 900 million and south of 1.1 billion.

    The production cost of a chip is determined on the amount of chips that fit on a wafer. In light of the fact that a 300mm (12") wafer carried less than 120 G80 GPUs, Nvidia will see even fewer GT200s, apparently about 100, according to what he heard.

    We can't wait to lay our hands on one (or two) of these babies, and we'll share our impressions as soon as possible."

    http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37554/135/
     
  16. legionnaire

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    Yeah i reckon it will be, theres a post in the 9X00 thread stating that the GTX 280 can pull off 7000 in 3D Mark Vantage with Extreme preset.

    AMD better do something special with 4870 X2 or it will be another win for Nvidia.
     
  17. sandeep

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    ohhh, looks like that card could be ATI killer.
     
  18. FLB

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    Here is a shot of the Chip w/heatspreader.

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  19. Shinanigans

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    Sorry if it's already been asked/mentioned... but why does this card have 2 SLI fingers if it doesn't do Tri-SLI?
     
  20. FLB

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    Looks like it will do tri-sli - they wouldn't goto the effort of the PCB work otherwise, just lots of rumors going round. Perhaps it wont do Tri-Sli straight away because of drivers like 8800GTX didn't until a recent driver set.
     
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