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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series | RTX 3090 3080 3070 3060 3050 | Discussion

Discussion in 'Video Cards & Monitors' started by Sphinx, Sep 1, 2020.

  1. aokman

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    Im not saying that there won’t be more cards in the future, just for the time being that the 3080 is the 2080ti replacement as there is nothing above it that isn’t consider niche god tier stuff (Titan).

    It is easier if everyone pretends the 2080ti and its stupid pricing never existed. Compare it to Pascal and it all make much more sense, it fits in nicely as this is the upgrade that Pascal owners have been waiting for also :)
     
  2. Elchupacabraj

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    Theres plenty of space between the 3080 and 3090, even more between the 3070 and 3090 and so on. by the end of next year we'll have a market flooded with super/ko/wtf/ti/omfg variants if AMD bring the noise and compete on multiple levels.
     
  3. jpw007

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    2 PS5's for the price of one 3080!

    It's an interesting proposition. That $750 will easily last 5 or so years too which is more than a GPU tends to and the graphics will only get better like they do every console as the platform matures.
     
  4. Skramit

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    Hold on.....

    23% from 2080Ti to 3080 is a bit 'meh'. Yes....

    It's not so 'meh' when you factor the $500 price drop in for the 'flagship gaming card'.

    Thats kinda important in the equation.....

    The better way to look at the increase in in performance - is what $699 got you last gen verses $699 this gen. After all, we have to spend money on these cards, so money should be right in the middle of any evaluation of performance.

    My conclusion: Any comparisons between 2080Ti and 3080 are simply dumb for the end consumer as pricing wise is apples vs oranges.

    Aokman theres a very good reason 2080 vs 3080 is a good comparison and that is simply price.
     
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  5. ricmc

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    Yeah consoles are great value and future proof! Leave the 3080's to us framewhores :thumbup:
     
  6. The Beast

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    Lol, I don't have a narrative - I'm a gaming nerd trying to figure out what to buy and how much performance it is going to give me. You on the other hand, have been actively trying to downplay the performance of the 3080 for reasons unknown.

    Perhaps it's a matter of interpretation, but I can't conceive why you wouldn't consider 4k the target comparison resolution for 3080 consumers? Regardless, I'll be looking at 1440 too as I use both (4k@60 and 1440@144).

    Quick reminder, here is you 10 days ago:

    Here are the real world games (that have been tested) that I am personally playing right now on my PC (at 4k):

    F1 2020
    1440p
    3080 32% faster than 2080Ti
    4k
    3080 37% faster than 2080Ti

    RDR2
    1440p
    3080 33% faster than 2080Ti
    4k
    3080 36% faster than 2080Ti

    And two games I will play when I get a 3080:

    Control
    1440p
    3080 37% faster than 2080Ti
    4k
    3080 39% faster than 2080Ti

    Jedi: Fallen Order
    1440p
    3080 32% faster than 2080Ti
    4k
    3080 37% faster than 2080Ti

    It's obvious that real world gaming is smack bang in the range I reverse engineered from the DF quick look:

    You wanted real world benchmarks, now you have them. It's not 15-20% like you keep claiming.

    Yeah the OC potential is a lot more limited than I thought it would be, that's a bummer. 2080Ti might claw some difference back when all that washes out.

    You're right about that, I had forgotten how big the 1080Ti to 980Ti upgrade was (my last one). I think if you compare 3080 to 2080 then it's arguably the "same scale" generational leap, but yeah NVidia are being pretty loose with that claim.

    Fair, I was wrong.

    If you feel better insisting you were lied to crack on mate, perhaps you can get a refund from NVidia for the emotional strain it seems to be causing you. I'm done trying to point out nuance to people who only converse in extremes.
     
  7. PiNoY

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    hrmmmmm new console and used 2080ti? haha
     
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  8. chook

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    I will give you a like if for no other reason than it is the bigger man that admits he is wrong, especially on the Web where one minor mistake has you labelled as some kind of mentally deficient moron for the rest of your life.
     
  9. Kelvin

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    Hmmm...

    looking for reasonable bang for buck...

    The 2070 Super is 31% / 38% / 45% slower at FHD / QHD /4k
    or the 3080 is 45% / 61% / 82% faster than a 2070 super at FHD / QHD / 4k

    You can currently buy the 2070 Super $599
    given the 3080 is going to around $1139 - $1600..


    The 2070 is 38% / 46% / 52% slower at FHD / QHD /4k
    or the 3080 is 61% / 85% / 108% faster than a 2070 at FHD / QHD / 4k

    or the 2070 straight at $539.10


    I guess it all depends on the supply and AIB prices..
     
  10. Skramit

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    Honestly if 'bang for buck' is what youre after, you're best waiting for 3070's to land and be properly in stock around xmas then grab a 2080/2070 super or something for peanuts second hand.
     
  11. The Beast

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    Hold up, whoa, stop.

    Back to school mate.

    The ONLY way to express this is:

    100 is 42.8% more (faster) than 70.
    or
    70 is 30% less (slower) than 100.

    In this case, yes, literally. :D

    Worked on me! I pre-ordered a PS5 a few hours ago!
     
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    anyone else notice the youtubers all subtly complaining that their viewer requested ryzen setups are bottle necking the 3080. that's what you get for promoting them for views guys.
     
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  14. aokman

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    You are completely missing the point mate... NVIDIA didnt drop prices to give you more value. They just returned prices to what they should have been all along for the 2080ti... They tried milking a new high price point and it backfired... badly.

    They have returned pricing to Pascal based pricing tiers like the 2080ti never existed to sell more units but pretend like it is the 2080 replacement because of their artificially inflated prices and somewhat average performance gains.

    The 2080ti was the top consumer card for Turing, currently the 3080 is the top consumer card for Ampere. A 3090 pushing $2500-$3000 is not your average consumer card

    Stop getting sucked in by their marketing, they are distorting reality to make you think you’re getting more value which was artificially created.
     
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  15. Skramit

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    I love EVERYTHING about this card - price, quality and its EVGA.....

    BUT WHATINTHEROYALFUCK WERE THEY THINKING PUTING RED ACCENTS ON IT? Not just this one but all XC3 and FTW3 models seem to have the red bits. They know every gamer buying a high end GPU like this has RGB splattered through their system, and quite likely other colours in their build to a theme. So now they all have to consider if they want this dogs balls red thing sticking out at the end of this GPU with their themesed build. So many buyers will pass on it. This seems like such a dumb move.

    It doesnt matter 'why' the price was what it was or is what it is. It simply matter what the performance of the cards youre comparing is at the same price point. You cant compare $1199 vs $699 across 2 generations and say "oh the improvement sucks". But you can compare $699 to $699 in different gens.

    I suppose we are on different wave lengths and its why The Best is bewildered as I am why people are hellbent on comparing 2080Ti to 3080.

    Price/performance ratio is what "most" people look for. Not paper words like "highest card for the generation" - thats all care factor 0.

    Most people will want to know - what does my $ get me in performance, and its quite simply a massive leap from 2080 to 3080 both at $699.
     
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  16. raincloudx

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    Undercover for AMD? Maybe EVGA are planning to defect
     
  17. power

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    ha, more like PCMR noobs.
     
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    1000% agree, I initially thought the XC3 was all black but it is let down by the red accent at the back. The FTW3 looks ugly as sin imo. Luckily I do not have a windowed case.
     
  19. Domokun

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    You don't like EVGA's "Hooker Lips" product range?
     
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  20. Straferight

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    looks like not much OC headroom on the EVGA XC3 cards either

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